Puppies first few nights

suki1964

Any wrote: »

Thank you ever so much for your advice.
Will it not be difficult for the puppy to get used to staying alone later though? I am worried that it will get used to sleeping in the room with me and then will not be too happy to sleep in the kitchen.

Thats why I use a crate.

The crate is the " safe place"

Once they are used to crate land, then no matter where you put the crate they know its safe.

If you are going to think about a crate, then dont collect pup at tea time. You need a full day of getting the pup used to the crate before you go to try shut him in it.

Google crate training

See I dont mind my dog in the bedroom at night. Actually now hes older he never stays the whole night - he wanders the house dossing where suits. But as a pup I got toilet training started on day one and that ment getting up at night so beside my bed was the best place for him - I woke right away and we had no accidents in the night

But its up to you, your set up and your family as to how it all works for you

Fire_Fox

It sounds like you have thought carefully about the puppy's first few nights! With regards to heat, I have been looking at a heated bed for my cat and have read several times that cats and dogs must not be given external heat at the same temperature as humans can have. Heated pet beds apparently feel tepid to the touch, but once the animal is on the bit underneath them should be toasty. I am far from an expert so maybe the vet could advise further, but I wonder if mum would regulate their temperatures, moving the puppies away from her if they got too warm?

Any

suki1964 wrote: »

Thats why I use a crate.

The crate is the " safe place"

Once they are used to crate land, then no matter where you put the crate they know its safe.

If you are going to think about a crate, then dont collect pup at tea time. You need a full day of getting the pup used to the crate before you go to try shut him in it.

Google crate training

See I dont mind my dog in the bedroom at night. Actually now hes older he never stays the whole night - he wanders the house dossing where suits. But as a pup I got toilet training started on day one and that ment getting up at night so beside my bed was the best place for him - I woke right away and we had no accidents in the night

But its up to you, your set up and your family as to how it all works for you

Does he still have a crate instead of an open bed then? I have never used a crate so I have no experience with them at all.

suki1964

foreign_correspondent wrote: »

Hi,



ETA - I dont know much about either of the parents breeds, but people breeding from CKCS should be aware of the risk of Syringomyelia, and I believe breeding dogs should be checked for it, and with poodles there will also be associated health peoblems - if the parents are not health tested, a cross could inherit neither of these traits, or both.

So all the cross breed pups in rescues are from health tested parents?

Any

Fire_Fox wrote: »

It sounds like you have thought carefully about the puppy's first few nights! With regards to heat, I have been looking at a heated bed for my cat and have read several times that cats and dogs must not be given external heat at the same temperature as humans can have. Heated pet beds apparently feel tepid to the touch, but once the animal is on the bit underneath them should be toasty. I am far from an expert so maybe the vet could advise further, but I wonder if mum would regulate their temperatures, moving the puppies away from her if they got too warm?

I was going to have it just "warm" not hot and obviously it will fade during the night. It was really just to make the puppy to feel comfortable and fall asleep...
I was thinking that it is like with humans - you feel different when your husband/wife are not in the bed with you because you are used to the heat of another body..

suki1964

Any wrote: »

Does he still have a crate instead of an open bed then? I have never used a crate so I have no experience with them at all.

No, I stopped using the crate in the house time he was about 8/9 months

Crate training needs to be read up on. Its not a question of buying a crate and shutting the dog up for long periods, its a safe place for the pup to have. It takes a while for the pup to get used to the crate and it take you a while to get used to training them in it use

A lot of people think get a crate, shut dog in all night. and cos a dog wont mess its bed, thats it - dog toilet trained. Its not like that at all.

Like I say - Google crate training

A great puppy book is The Perfect Puppy by Gwen Bailey

My dog I have now has never liked a bed. he just wanders about during the night, sofa, bed, bathroom floor - where ever suits him. Sure as a pup and a teen he was kept in the crate till he was safe to be left along but now he goes wherever.

I still use the crate if we go away and he has a travel crate

UKTigerlily

The Dog you're getting is a Cavoodle & a 'designer' dog breed, I hope the current owners aren't charging a 3 figure sum for a mongrel! I was going to suggest the ticking clock too but have no idea how well it works! You have lots of good advice here x

foreign_correspondent

suki1964 wrote: »

So all the cross breed pups in rescues are from health tested parents?

of course not!

However, there is a huge difference between taking on a rescue pup, for a donation of perhaps £100-£150, which usually includes neutering, or a voucher if the pup is too young, microchipping etc, (and accepting that the pups parentage is unknown)... to paying a breeder perhaps several times that, and supporting and encouraging their trade in churning out pups with little care or attention for their, or their parents wellbeing!

On thing is for sure, if there were no customers for unscrupulous breeders, they would soon stop breeding these poor dogs! - do you suggest that people do not look for breeders who health check, or that it is unimportant in this case?

Syringomyelia and Mitral Valve syndrome (which apparently afflicts over half of all Cavalier King Charles spaniels by the age of 5) are horrible conditions and any responsible breeder should be working to ensure they do not perpetuate these!

Any

suki1964 wrote: »

No, I stopped using the crate in the house time he was about 8/9 months

Crate training needs to be read up on. Its not a question of buying a crate and shutting the dog up for long periods, its a safe place for the pup to have. It takes a while for the pup to get used to the crate and it take you a while to get used to training them in it use

A lot of people think get a crate, shut dog in all night. and cos a dog wont mess its bed, thats it - dog toilet trained. Its not like that at all.

Like I say - Google crate training

A great puppy book is The Perfect Puppy by Gwen Bailey

My dog I have now has never liked a bed. he just wanders about during the night, sofa, bed, bathroom floor - where ever suits him. Sure as a pup and a teen he was kept in the crate till he was safe to be left along but now he goes wherever.

I still use the crate if we go away and he has a travel crate

Hmm, I personally don't feel comfortable about crate.. I am worried about it being too little space. But I suppose the puppy should sleep during the night anyway... hmm, I have to think about it a little.

I was going to leave it in conservatory (tile floor) untill it is a bit house trained and then open the door to the kitchen as well and later leave just the whole house opened (inside I mean:D)..

UKTigerlily

Crates are supposed to be ideal for training as most dogs won't go in their crate, also some like a secure & safe area to retreat to. During the day of course it'll need to go out every 30-60 minutes but at night can be popped in it's crate once used to it & maybe go out 1-2x or so?