Post staff to hold national strikes (22+23 oct)

geri1965_2

sunnysea83 wrote: »

Ive noticed a lot of the sites i buy from who used to send via royal mail for their standard service are now saying they are not affected by the strikes and are using a courier.

All royal mail workers are doing by striking are making businesses go else where, when they get a better service else where they will stay with them and not return to R.M leading to less post being sent via R.M and job cuts, so they really arent doing themselves any favours.

I think you mean 'if' they get a better service. The vast majority will return to Royal Mail once the strike is over, just as they did in 2007 (Amazon, Play etc).

ghanagirl

All the people and small firms that are saying we will go with DHL, TNT, UK Mail etc don't understand that they give 99% of their business back to Royal Mail to deliver.
Its called the last mile so chance are even if they gave them their business it still may not be delivered on time.

Anyone who gets a Tesco mailing look at the post mark on the top right corner it says DHL, All these items are delivered by royal mail.
DHL went to tesco's & said we can deliver it 1p cheaper, Royal Mail said 2p cheaper, DHL went to Postcom then the regulator & complained, the regulator forbid Royal Mail to undercut DHL so they are now losing all these types of mailings and TnT have joined in too.
They Collect the mailings deliver them to a Royal Mail Mail Centre then pay them 9p to deliver these items and keep the difference.

I don't blame Royal Mail they are trying to save the business, I don't blame the union they are trying to save jobs.
I blame this government for allowing other firms to come in and cherry pick the Mail business, they used the excuse that the EU were going to open up the markets in all EU contries so the Uk went First, Only for the rest of the EU to take one look at what happend here and said no we not going to do it after all.

ghanagirl

sunnysea83 wrote: »

Ive noticed a lot of the sites i buy from who used to send via royal mail for their standard service are now saying they are not affected by the strikes and are using a courier.

All royal mail workers are doing by striking are making businesses go else where, when they get a better service else where they will stay with them and not return to R.M leading to less post being sent via R.M and job cuts, so they really arent doing themselves any favours.

Royal Mail know that these firms will come back after the strikes are over because they will not be able to offer people free delivery.

John Lewis said we will offer other delivery options but there will be a charge.

cyberbob

ghanagirl wrote: »

Royal Mail know that these firms will come back after the strikes are over because they will not be able to offer people free delivery.

Why not? They pay RM for the service as they do couriers, RM don't do it for nothing. So if the prices are comparable they will still be able to offer free delivery. A lot of John lewis larger items are already with a courier (and have been for years) and they still offer free delivery on those

Cissi

ghanagirl wrote: »

Royal Mail know that these firms will come back after the strikes are over because they will not be able to offer people free delivery.

We won't. We've made the decision to start charging customers for delivery, and guess what at least 20 people on the phone have said in reaction today (having phoned up to enquire what's happened to their order)?

"Oh, did you offer free delivery - I hadn't even noticed, everyone expects to pay for shipping these days".

I don't even want to think about how much time and money we've lost due to RM's utter incompetence in the last month. Such a pity, they offered a great service until then, and the posties on the ground are great. I think the company is finished now though. I wish them all the best of luck finding new jobs, hopefully somewhere they'll be treated better

RFW

ghanagirl wrote: »

Royal Mail know that these firms will come back after the strikes are over because they will not be able to offer people free delivery.

John Lewis said we will offer other delivery options but there will be a charge.

It could only take one major company such as John Lewis, Amazon, Tesco, M&S or whoever to either join with an existing courier company (eg Home Delivery Network, Parcelnet, etc) to have them deliver their small parcels and it would be a massive dent in RM, especially if they could then incorporate other companies' mail too.

Some of the major retailers who have fingers in other pies (finance, insurance, mobile phones...) will send a lot of mail per customer, if they could save money by incorporating that in house, either alone or with other companies they'd do it.

The more strikes that take place, the harder it will be for RM to get back any business that goes elsewhere and RM management should be doing all they can to make sure that doesn't happen.

chja

Turkeys, not just voting for Christmas, but wrapping themselves in foil and jumping in the oven.

TurkishDelight

Has anyone else found that the strikes have been a massive publicity fest for every company you've ever even thought about buying from?

All week I've been getting "special" or "important" emails containing that companies postal policy plus a shedload of "special offers".

I really don't care lol- if I think about renewing my custom (that has laid dormant for two years) I'm sure I can look up who you post by. :rolleyes:

Anyway... we'll be doing no post until Saturday, and that is only the semi-dead stock that we can afford to lose- real stuff will be going back on ebay Sunday.

cyberbob

chja wrote: »

Turkeys, not just voting for Christmas, but wrapping themselves in foil and jumping in the oven.

Love the Metaphor:D

custardy

custardy wrote: »

obviously i dont know whats going on here but in 2007 RM did the same thing(as i said before) of wanting strikes stopped for negotiations
then they brought nothing new to the table
so the full notification period has to be done again.
as i said RM's goal would be to get xmas clear by delaying or whatever

just to follow up my own post

this was part of the requirements of RM to sit down and talk while calling off the strikes

the union take no industrial action until that extension expires other than 15 minutes in the final week of the extension period should you still feel the need to validate your ballot
- the union takes no industrial action between the 1st December and the end of December
- no further industrial action is taken on the back of any other current local ballots prior to the end of December
- the union withdraws all instructions to representatives not to cooperate with change and modernisation and tells them to re-engage with the agreed industrial relations framework