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rspca wont take my dog an it bit me ???

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  • jha
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    edited 15 October 2009 at 12:25PM
    kelly2009m wrote: »
    wot can i do the rspca wont take my dog she bit me an i have 2 young children under 2 i can not keep her as i carnt trust her around the kids know she didnt bit me badly she was sleeping an got scared when i stood up an trood on some plastic only grassed me but not the pouint rspca say they have no space wot can i do to get rid of her as thought the rspca would help ????

    How are you feeling now kelly? I expect you were feeling really shocked and upset when your dog bit you even though she did it in fright. Well done for being honest and saying it was a reaction to you treading on some plastic and well done for thinking of your kids safety.

    I completly agree with other posters that the rspca are busy dealing with emergencies and rescues but i can also understand why you might think that they would take your dog or at least advise you on how to care for it whilst keeping your kids safe - at the end of the day we dont all know everyting about what each charity does / the services they provide. Look at how many people telephone the rspca about injured birds each year which i know drives them insane.

    May i quote the excellent advice given by KatP and suggest you follow thier advice for the time being:
    "In the meantime she gets a couple of stair gates and keeps the dog shut in a separate room from the kids so that they are safe. She buys a muzzle to use when the dog is out until she finds a new home"

    As i am sure your dog is feeling pretty confused and frightend by the whole experience as it is not as if it bit you in malice.

    1. I can see you care for your kids safety you wouldnt let them play with the dog unsupervised anyway so the risk is reduced already.
    2. And as you have kids i am hopeful that you have starigates anyway reducing the risk even further. If not you could try freecycle or a local asda as ther have been stairgates for about 15 pounds in the baby event recently.
    3. And also i am sure your local vet or someone on here can advise you on purchasing a muzzle within your price range reducing the risk further again whilst you are out iyswim.

    If you still feel that you wish to find a more sutiable home for your dog I agree it is a task that will probably fall on you as an owner. I do fear that it might be put down otherwise - but i might be wrong. You could put up notices in your local vet and area seeking a good home with no children. You could also make sure your dog is neutered (sp.) and in good health with its vaccinations prior to being re homed to give it the best start in its new life.

    I hope this helps
  • suki1964
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    emlou2009 wrote: »
    because only white lightning swilling chavs own staffs, clearly :rolleyes: :confused:

    honestly...!


    why on earth are people suggesting that this perfectly healthy dog is put down?? the OP cant take the risk that one of her children could startle it and be nipped like she was, that doesnt mean the dog needs to be destroyed and not given a chance of a nice life in another home! of course it deserves the chance to find another home even if it does mean putting it in a shelter!

    Who is saying to have it destroyed?

    Only saying that the likelihood is that it will be destroyed. Many councils now adopt a destroy policy - on breeds they know they can not find room for is rescues - many councils include staff in that list. My own destroys rotties and staffs after the 7 days grace in the pound
  • foreign_correspondent
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    edited 15 October 2009 at 3:01PM
    kelly2009m wrote: »
    wot can i do the rspca wont take my dog she bit me an i have 2 young children under 2 i can not keep her as i carnt trust her around the kids know she didnt bit me badly she was sleeping an got scared when i stood up an trood on some plastic only grassed me but not the pouint rspca say they have no space wot can i do to get rid of her as thought the rspca would help ????

    OP, please take your time making this decision - you are probably really shocked at the moment - to me it sounds like your dog reacted quite naturally - as Mrs T says it is a reflex in most animals to defend themselves when startled from sleep - I would say what you need to learn from this is that your dog needs a quiet place to sleep, where this is unlikely to happen again, not that you have an aggressive dog.

    To be honest, stafies are hard enough to rehome as it is, even good tempered attractive youngsters - I have been looking after one this week, thankfully we managed to track her owners, otherwise it would have been very hard to find somewhere for her to go.

    Many rescues do not take staffies at all, as they find them so hard to rehome. Please do be realistic, she is not likely to find a lovely new home easily, and staffies are the breed most likely to be put to sleep if unwanted.

    I suggest you get her a crate where she can sleep, away from the children (do not force her in, you have to make it fun for her, and a nice cosy place to sleep!) and of course, never leave a dog unsupervised with kids.

    However, if this dog is usually sound with your kids (is she?) and only reacted in this way when startled from her sleep, I don't think she poses any more of a risk to your kids than she did before this incident.

    PS - whilst I can understand other poster's frustration at this scenario (how often do we all warn people how hard it is when they say they want a pup but have babies/young children - and how many are adamant it will all be fine, if only the 'stupid' rescues would let them have a pup!?) if the OP feels 'yelled at' she may well not come back - and ultimately, she is asking for advice here, and the dog is likely to suffer if, instead of getting good sensible advice, she passes the dog on to the first person who offers to take it, or if it ends up in the local pound...

    There are a lot of people on here who can offer her advice and support in this scenario, and hopefully this wil lead to a good outcome for the poster and the dog... but if people are rude and insulting, as one or two have been - do you think that will help the poster and her dog?
  • geri1965 wrote: »
    The use of the words "get rid" implies she doesn't care that much.

    OP - did it not occur to you that with two children under the age of two, getting a young Staffie might not be such a good idea? And now you want the RSPCA to take it off your hands. :rolleyes:

    It's because of irresponsible pet owners like yourself that their shelters are full to bursting.

    im sorry but I love dogs however I love my kids more, whats wrong with that? and arent staffs also known as "the nanny dogs" because of their love for children?

    dont be so nasty.
  • MrsTine wrote: »
    a dog will often snap if you startle it whilst it's asleep! What did you expect :confused:

    my dog must be a bloody saint then, because she would never do that!
  • my dog must be a bloody saint then, because she would never do that!

    she may do... depending on what state of sleep she is in, whether she is dreaming, what she interprets the statling sound to be....

    .. ever had a dream where you can hear a siren or alarm, and when you wake it is the alarm clock? Or you are trying to get to someone knocking on the window, and when you wake the next door neighbours are hammering something together? (I am sure you know the sort of thing I mean!)

    Our sleeping brain interprets sounds differently to how our waking brain does... this dog may well have interpreted the noise which startled her as a predator or attacker and had moved to defend herself before she realised it was her owner and no risk... she clearly realised instantaneously, and corrected her actions accordingly, as the bite was a graze rather than a proper bite.

    Unless you are going to condict an experiment in which you try startling your dog from her sleep many times, with different sounds, in different environments, and log her reactions, you cannot say she would never do this!
  • rachiee
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    But if the dog was scared when you trodden on her tail when sleeping what did you expect?? A dog is not a human, I know if I stood or shocked my dogs while sleeping first reaction is to bite for protection. I don't know what you expected.
    Theres 2 types of horse owner, a person who owns a horse and a horsey person ;)
  • walwin
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    Pssst wrote: »
    You dont say...and is she called tyson or satan..?

    So called dangerous dogs are a subject often discussed on the likes of radio phone ins etc.

    Almost inevitably someone will phone in and defend the dogs..."My lickle staffy...the kids love 'im...my two kids Keanu and Jordan even ride round on 'is back".

    IMHO they are ugly brutes though i suspect they are often more intelligent than some of those who own them

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    And the point of your post is what?
  • jenhug
    jenhug Posts: 2,277 Forumite
    walwin wrote: »
    And the point of your post is what?

    I was wondering too, and the pic of the pug threw me completely!
  • So wrong I am afraid , I did not need or want an excuse. The dog viciously attacked my dog, causing wounds to the head, that is not an excuse it is a fact. you do not know me so need to assume I am looking for an excuse as i dont want the poor dog. I would not lie about the situation and then put it on here, I have told the truth to ask for advice, what would be the point of lying? I cannot believe that you have posted that i dont want or love it, how ridiculous. and also my child is never trusted with any dog thank you for your advice though as I am sure there are many owners who do trust their animals with their kids. Thank fully my child didnt have to witness the horrific attack either as she was in bed asleep. It has been so distressing as i pointed out and it isnt much help if you try to make out something that isnt true. I am a dog lover, through and through, I did not simply change my mind. I have been mistreated by the charity and cant believe the rubbish you have posted.



    onee
    MrsTine wrote: »
    My view I'm afraid is that the OP got an excuse on a plate for getting rid of the poor dog who is now no longer wanted - a dog will often snap if you startle it whilst it's asleep! What did you expect :confused:
    Same as I've hit out when startled in my sleep and same as all paramedics are trained and told to always talk to casulaties who are unconscious because the first thing that comes back is hearing and many a medic has forgotten it and been clouted by a casulty who's regained consciousness and not understood the medic was helping them but only registered that a stranger was leaning over them... I know one medic who is sans 2 front teeth as a result! He was helping remove a car crash victim from her car and was leaning over her to cut the seatbelt and she clouted him one as she came to...

    If you don't want the dog then fair enough - I'd rather to found it a new home because it certainly doesn't deserve being unloved just because you're bored of it. However don't try to justify yourself in order to get shot of it - it might backfire and result in an innocent animal being put to sleep...
    The RSPCA and Dog Protection etc are full to the brim - people are dumping their dogs left right and centre because of the recession and there is a VERY high likelyhood your dog will be destroyed...
    Your best bet is to contact the breed rescue and ask for their assistance in finding a new home for the dog.

    In the mean time then you NEVER leave a dog no matter how "good" it is with young children unattended. My dog is fab with children and adores my 20 week old daughter (to the point where I think she'd be very torn if she thought I was harming the baby because she knows I'm alpha, but she'd feel she should protect the baby...) but I'd NEVER EVER EVER leave her alone with her because if the baby got hold of her fur and pulled it would hurt and a dogs natural reaction would be to bite at what was hurting it...
    So you make sure that the situation never arises by never leaving them alone!
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