loosing the license

achtunglady

scotsman4th wrote: »

Then after the ban, your licence will have no points on it and you would no longer be tied to the 6 points in 2 years new driver act?
A lot of people probably dont realise that (I didnt!).

Don't the original 6 points stay on the license for up to 4 years no matter when you passed your test???

finished

sarahg1969 wrote: »

That's different. If you lose you licence for two years, then you've been banned, not had your licence revoked.


Scotsman4th is showing that a new driver can avoid having their licence revoked by receiving a short ban instead. However, this is highly unlikely to occur in the case of a drink driver. Because, as well as the ban, they would also receive points, and the licence would automatically be revoked.

By way of example:

Amir Khan was done for dangerous driving or something similar, when he knocked down (and seriously injured) a man on a crossing, as he sped through red lights, overtaking stationary traffic. This ocurred within his 2-year probationary period.

At the time, he was also awaiting a trial for driving at 140-odd mph through motorway roadworks (dangerous driving again, I think). That was an earlier offence.

For the accident, he was found guilty only of DWDCA, and the Judge gave him a 6-month ban, and no points. At the second hearing (for the offence which occurred just 6 weeks after he passed his test), he was found guilty of speeding only, and was again given no points, and just a 6-week ban, which was to run concurrently with the one he was serving. ie, no punishment at all!

So, you see, revocation can be avoided, by being dealt with by a kindly Judge who will instead give you a short ban. Wasn't Amir Khan a lucky boy?

very lucky indeed.wonder if joe blogs would have had the same luck/:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Chippy_Minton_2

cajef wrote: »

Although he has re-passed his test, the 6 points remain on his licence so if he gets another 6 points that would add up to 12 which could mean disqualification again.

Where did you get the six points form? The OP said the "friend" was disqualified.

Chippy_Minton_2

DaveF327 wrote: »

If he was disqualified under the New Drivers Act, then he will have 6 points already. Once the test is retaken and the licence is granted again, these 6 points will still remain in force unless expired by virtue of age. Once the point total reach 12 (counted backwards three years from the date of the last offence), he is liable to disqualification for a minimum of six months.

You don't get disqualified under the new drivers act.

You licence gets revoked, you can apply for a provisional and take a test straight away.

If you get disqualified, you are disqualified from holding or obtaining a licence.

jeannieblue

OP - your friend should be ashamed of himself, not trying to rack up the points again. Personally, I would recommend castration as well as banning the idiot for life. We do not need any more idiots on the road, we have enough as it is.

hartcjhart

greenpixey wrote: »

It is after 96, he is only 24
Is there a place where I can find this in a writing to show him? I know he is not gonna believe me otherwise.
I tried searching the net earlier today but cant find anything. He just had a speeding ticket yesterday so we are trying to talk some sense into him :wall:

glad he got a speeding ticket lets hope they do ban him for everyones safety,perhaps its his head that needs banging on the wall

cajef

Chippy_Minton wrote: »

Where did you get the six points form? The OP said the "friend" was disqualified.

They also stated that he had to retake his test, which usually means six points under the two year probationary rule.

Chippy_Minton_2

cajef wrote: »

They also stated that he had to retake his test, which usually means six points under the two year probationary rule.

Or disqualified from driving until test passed.:rolleyes:

finished

finished wrote: »

you are correct up to a point.if the offence is for drink driving then it is an absolute offence I.E. no mitigating circumstances.you lose the licence.I am very proud to have reported 2 drunk drivers over the past 3 years leaving my local bar.both caught both lost licences,one for 2 years.:cool:

happy days.06/10/09/1145pm.girl I reported 20 mins ago leaving local bar caught and breathalised.dunno the result yet but as she was staggering out of bar think its another result.:j:j:j:j

Pee

sunnyone wrote: »

And so they should, anyone caught without insurance should be banned IMHO, I was disabled by an uninsured driver who got off scot free.

Those without insurance usually have no MOT and they are driving around in dangerous vehicles and driving in any fashion that they want because they dont care or they would be legal.

I have no points.

sunnyone

I am very sorry to hear that and I don't know how long ago your accident was, but there should have been financial compensation available to you via the MIB - if you didn't claim, speak to a solicitor.

I do agree that driving without insurance is a very serious offence, and people should be punished properly for it.