Housing Shortfall approaching 1 million

tesuhoha

Demanufacture wrote: »

What has driven property up is poor lending practises and IR's that were kept to low for too long as mortgages were excluded from the inflation index. Less than 20% of the UK is built on.[/QUOTE]

Precisely

the_ash_and_the_oak

tesuhoha wrote: »

So why not cover it with tinpot newbuilds, if people need places to live. Why should the countryside be enjoyed by the select few? Why should everyone be crammed togeher in London so that a few country dwellers can enjoy the open spaces?

Mainly because the majority of jobs are in urban centres. Jobs based in rural areas are lesser in number and in pay

the_ash_and_the_oak

Graham_Devon wrote: »

One of the biggest problems we have at the moment, I believe, is not the rising population, but how the population is now living.

Now, this is not a jab in any way shape or form at single mothers, but, it's merely a fact that the number of single parnets has exploded. All requiring a roof. The parter that was, also requiring a roof. Half my street is made up of single parents, so the ex partner is also living somewhere, thats 2 homes for what used to be a family, because of societal changes and the ease of walking away from commitments and our general way of living now.

I can hardly say I'm any better as I live on my own, guess I could have a lodger, but do not want one, could have the mother of my child, but do not want that. So maybe society, and how we live now has had a bigger impact than the population rising. I think the population is estimated to be falling now anyway, as loads of immigrants have decided the UK is a hole.

But Graham just as the structure of society has changed do you not think the structure of housing has also changed. There may have been a rise in people living single but don't you think there's been an equivalent rise of 1 and 2 person apartments

tesuhoha

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

Mainly because the majority of jobs are in urban centres. Jobs based in rural areas are lesser in number and in pay

If the price of property was driven down people would not have to live in cities to be able to afford a house. Also the building industry would come to life again. The building industry was one of the biggest industries in this country and now it is all but dead. There are tens of thousands of building workers unemployed. This would help to re-create jobs and would help many school leavers who want to go into the trades.

Graham_Devon

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

But Graham just as the structure of society has changed do you not think the structure of housing has also changed. There may have been a rise in people living single but don't you think there's been an equivalent rise of 1 and 2 person apartments

Mainly by converting the old bigger properties.

the_ash_and_the_oak

tesuhoha wrote: »

If the price of property was driven down people would not have to live in cities to be able to afford a house.

Don't quite get this. Last time I looked houses in London were more expensive than in Driffield

the_ash_and_the_oak

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Mainly by converting the old bigger properties.

So one house one family. Now four singles four apartments?

Also while theres been a lot of converting a quick look at most city centres reveals a huge number of newbuilds created over the last decade

kennyboy66_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

One of the biggest problems we have at the moment, I believe, is not the rising population, but how the population is now living.

Now, this is not a jab in any way shape or form at single mothers, but, it's merely a fact that the number of single parnets has exploded. All requiring a roof. The parter that was, also requiring a roof. Half my street is made up of single parents, so the ex partner is also living somewhere, thats 2 homes for what used to be a family, because of societal changes and the ease of walking away from commitments and our general way of living now.

I can hardly say I'm any better as I live on my own, guess I could have a lodger, but do not want one, could have the mother of my child, but do not want that. So maybe society, and how we live now has had a bigger impact than the population rising. I think the population is estimated to be falling now anyway, as loads of immigrants have decided the UK is a hole.

Wouldn't say that this isn't an issue but single parent households are only 7.5% of the total - and while they are forecast to increase, it is the one-person households that see the explosive growth. One person households forcast to be 5 times as many as single parent ones.

Graham_Devon

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

So one house one family. Now four singles four apartments?

Also while theres been a lot of converting a quick look at most city centres reveals a huge number of newbuilds created over the last decade

I have to admit, I'm not too sure what you are saying here.

I was just commenting on the demand for homes. People keep relating that to an ever increasing population. I just think there is more to it than that, and a lot of this demad is caused by how we have decided to live.

Graham_Devon

kennyboy66 wrote: »

Wouldn't say that this isn't an issue but single parent households are only 7.5% of the total - and while they are forecast to increase, it is the one-person households that see the explosive growth. One person households forcast to be 5 times as many as single parent ones.

Yer, I agree. But then half the time you can't fit more than one person in a new build, so it's neccesity