Housing Shortfall approaching 1 million

GDB2222

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

exactly!

the supply of houses for sale and the demand to buy them

and

the supply of houses to live in and the demand to live in them

are not the same thing imo

Accepting that, government policy should surely concentrate only on the supply of houses to live in?

the_ash_and_the_oak

I'm kinda feeling pretty much everyone should have a roof over their head. Who owns the roof not so important imo

carefullycautious

I can remember back in the late 60s families sharing houses. That is two seperate families sharing one house. There were many living like this for years.

StevieJ

dgl1001 wrote: »

Is this for real? Suppy and demand theory anybody?

You mean effective supply and effective demand

tesuhoha

The problem in this country is shortage of land. That drives the price of property up. Green belt land is enjoyed by the select few. If planning permission was granted on green belt land there would be enough housing for everyone and there would be no need for high property prices.

StevieJ

tesuhoha wrote: »

The problem in this country is shortage of land. That drives the price of property up. Green belt land is enjoyed by the select few. If planning permission was granted on green belt land there would be enough housing for everyone and there would be no need for high property prices.

Next you will be suggesting we tarmac over all our agricultural land to relieve traffic congestion :eek:

the_ash_and_the_oak

tesuhoha wrote: »

The problem in this country is shortage of land. That drives the price of property up. Green belt land is enjoyed by the select few. If planning permission was granted on green belt land there would be enough housing for everyone and there would be no need for high property prices.

And the countryside would be covered in tinpot newbuilds and commute times would increase further and the roads would become more jammed still

Just because there is a shortage of houses to buy does not mean there is a shortage of houses to live in. Rents in London for example have hardly changed during the time that house prices doubled.

tesuhoha

StevieJ wrote: »

Next you will be suggesting we tarmac over all our agricultural land to relieve traffic congestion :eek:

There's plenty of land thats not greenbelt or agricultural. There are a lot of people who have bought plots of greenbelt land in the hope that they will be given planning permission to build but the government just want to keep the price of property high.

Graham_Devon

One of the biggest problems we have at the moment, I believe, is not the rising population, but how the population is now living.

Now, this is not a jab in any way shape or form at single mothers, but, it's merely a fact that the number of single parnets has exploded. All requiring a roof. The parter that was, also requiring a roof. Half my street is made up of single parents, so the ex partner is also living somewhere, thats 2 homes for what used to be a family, because of societal changes and the ease of walking away from commitments and our general way of living now.

I can hardly say I'm any better as I live on my own, guess I could have a lodger, but do not want one, could have the mother of my child, but do not want that. So maybe society, and how we live now has had a bigger impact than the population rising. I think the population is estimated to be falling now anyway, as loads of immigrants have decided the UK is a hole.

tesuhoha

the_ash_and_the_oak wrote: »

And the countryside would be covered in tinpot newbuilds and commute times would increase further and the roads would become more jammed still

Just because there is a shortage of houses to buy does not mean there is a shortage of houses to live in. Rents in London for example have hardly changed during the time that house prices doubled.

So why not cover it with tinpot newbuilds, if people need places to live. Why should the countryside be enjoyed by the select few? Why should everyone be crammed togeher in London so that a few country dwellers can enjoy the open spaces?