Mobiles.co.uk - never mind the truth!

mobilejunkie

My my; a bombardment of attacks for drawing yet another problem to the attention of those who are customers and may be affected. Unlike my attackers, I don't assume that everyone knows all about cashback deals or this dealer and I will continue to draw the attention of their dishonest practices to those who do actually have their money invested with the dealer (or who are considering taking the plunge).

I "aim" my remarks at any company I deal with as anyone reading them should know (e.g. Vodafone). I am amazed that so many appear so ready to attack me and defend a dishonest company when I am a customer and they are not. Perhaps those people should actually put their money where their mouths are and try USING this dealer before jumping in to attack me (and others) who draw the problems to peoples' attention. If you don't like what I say, don't read it!

Guys_Dad

mobilejunkie wrote: »

My my; a bombardment of attacks for drawing yet another problem to the attention of those who are customers and may be affected. Unlike my attackers, I don't assume that everyone knows all about cashback deals or this dealer and I will continue to draw the attention of their dishonest practices to those who do actually have their money invested with the dealer (or who are considering taking the plunge).

I "aim" my remarks at any company I deal with as anyone reading them should know (e.g. Vodafone). I am amazed that so many appear so ready to attack me and defend a dishonest company when I am a customer and they are not. Perhaps those people should actually put their money where their mouths are and try USING this dealer before jumping in to attack me (and others) who draw the problems to peoples' attention. If you don't like what I say, don't read it!

Which bit of "it ain't the main message it's the way it is delivered don't you understand?"

None of the above posts defended the company - they all moaned about you and your endless pernickity rantings rather than the occasional good direct advice you used to give that is now obscured by tedious repetitive ramblings.

thommy

mobilejunkie wrote: »

My my; a bombardment of attacks for drawing yet another problem to the attention of those who are customers and may be affected. Unlike my attackers, I don't assume that everyone knows all about cashback deals or this dealer and I will continue to draw the attention of their dishonest practices to those who do actually have their money invested with the dealer (or who are considering taking the plunge).

I "aim" my remarks at any company I deal with as anyone reading them should know (e.g. Vodafone). I am amazed that so many appear so ready to attack me and defend a dishonest company when I am a customer and they are not. Perhaps those people should actually put their money where their mouths are and try USING this dealer before jumping in to attack me (and others) who draw the problems to peoples' attention. If you don't like what I say, don't read it!

it's getting difficult to avoid your posts - your posts aren't aimed just at companies. you've been pretty personal with people who've made mistakes, because they haven't followed your advice - but then that hasn't been exactly idiot proof, itself, has it?

the above posts are fair enough. you make some good points but, heck, you don't half pad it out with emotive waffle...

redux

mobilejunkie wrote: »

My my; a bombardment of attacks for drawing yet another problem to the attention of those who are customers and may be affected. Unlike my attackers, I don't assume that everyone knows all about cashback deals or this dealer and I will continue to draw the attention of their dishonest practices to those who do actually have their money invested with the dealer (or who are considering taking the plunge).

I "aim" my remarks at any company I deal with as anyone reading them should know (e.g. Vodafone). I am amazed that so many appear so ready to attack me and defend a dishonest company when I am a customer and they are not. Perhaps those people should actually put their money where their mouths are and try USING this dealer before jumping in to attack me (and others) who draw the problems to peoples' attention. If you don't like what I say, don't read it!

I agree with the above remark by Guys Dad

I said nothing whatsoever about the company.

I might suggest that if your rants about various companies are as invented or distorted as your accusation against me, it would be a waste of anyone's time reading them.

I fail to understand why you are a customer of this company, and why you redirect your paranoia at people who are unconnected with it. I'll choose my own suppliers, thank you, rather than accept your command to order anything from this one.

Other readers might do well to find advice on negotiating skills from people with better records. Yes, you might find this remark over-personal, but plenty of people have had to put up with that from you, for their inadvertent failure to seek out and study your apparently not always perfect advice.

mobilejunkie

Guys_Dad wrote: »

Which bit of "it ain't the main message it's the way it is delivered don't you understand?"

None of the above posts defended the company - they all moaned about you and your endless pernickity rantings rather than the occasional good direct advice you used to give that is now obscured by tedious repetitive ramblings.

It seems perfectly clear to me that the only thing obscuring my "occasional good direct advice" is people like you, who seem intent on ignoring it and attacking me for posting it. My first post today was quite clear and specific and provided a NEW warning whilst your only concern definitely seems to be to shoot me down and get me to let the company do as it pleases - even though you aren't personally affected by anything they do or say.

mobilejunkie

redux wrote: »

I agree with the above remark by Guys Dad

I said nothing whatsoever about the company.

I might suggest that if your rants about various companies are as invented or distorted as your accusation against me, it would be a waste of anyone's time reading them.

I fail to understand why you are a customer of this company, and why you redirect your paranoia at people who are unconnected with it. I'll choose my own suppliers, thank you, rather than accept your command to order anything from this one.

Other readers might do well to find advice on negotiating skills from people with better records. Yes, you might find this remark over-personal, but plenty of people have had to put up with that from you, for their inadvertent failure to seek out and study your apparently not always perfect advice.

If you find my advice so worthless you can ignore it. You have no need of it in any case from what you say. Rather puzzled about the apparently not always perfect advice. But then a lot of things about you puzzle me.

redux

mobilejunkie wrote: »

If you find my advice so worthless you can ignore it. You have no need of it in any case from what you say. Rather puzzled about the apparently not always perfect advice. But then a lot of things about you puzzle me.

then read this again:

redux wrote: »

... your endless boasting you are clever enough to make sure things never go wrong, or your endless complaints when they do go wrong

for specific instance, 2 questions: how long ago was your first advice on here to avoid CPW companies, and how old is your current contract with a CPW company?

perhaps not everyone will view that as consistent

instead of constructive advice when people have a problem, you'll quite often tell them they shouldn't have done it like that, should have studied your advice, sometimes with the overt implication or even actual statement that you consider them stupid and they more or less deserve their fate

that isn't much of a way to earn sympathy when you've got issues

Guys_Dad

mobilejunkie wrote: »

It seems perfectly clear to me that the only thing obscuring my "occasional good direct advice" is people like you, who seem intent on ignoring it and attacking me for posting it. My first post today was quite clear and specific and provided a NEW warning whilst your only concern definitely seems to be to shoot me down and get me to let the company do as it pleases - even though you aren't personally affected by anything they do or say.

This is EXACTLY the point I was making and you have made it better than I could myself. The NEW warning you made was to do with T-Mobile and the missing last bill possibly stopping the final cashback payment.

You wrote "One thing's for certain - you can rest assured that this dealer will deny any claim without that bill. There are ways to avoid this situation BUT if you cannot claim you can still force them to pay up, since they have created a t&c which is impossible to comply with."

Now, if there are ways you know to avoid this situation and make them pay up, then a positive way to help would be to spell that out. What are these ways?

But you choose to use your post as a negative attack on the company and NOT give customers the knowledge that you apparently have. That is the difference between being a source of help and a vendetta driven attack dog.

I look forward to reading just how customers should avoid this and I also look forward to Ben, from mobiles.co.uk responding on how mobiles.co.uk are tackling this particular eventuality.

mobilejunkie

I'm not after wages or applause. My first contract with ANY dealer was about 3 years ago. I will always use them as long as I can get my money - and I do, no matter what tricks they may try and pull. My advice to those who aren't experienced enough or determined enough (and most aren't, like it or not) to avoid ANY cashback scheme - but nowadays all cpw companies in particular - is consistent. If you have a problem with that it is yours and not mine. As for reading "this" again - no idea what you're on about since the quote is something YOU said and not me.

thommy

mj
you've unwittingly set yourself up to be shot down here. a forum is a place to debate and inform but your didactic way of passing on your experiences leaves no room for discussion on this specific thread.i don't want to get personal but no one has come on this thread to debate/support what you are saying. we agree with your complaints most of the way.apart from silk, however,everyone is getting wound up by your extremely subjective portrayal of this company.the more you bang the same drum, the less inclined people are to support you.how can we ignore your posts if they are there, in front of us, time after time...after time...almost verbatim...
edit
i appreciate the point about tmobile, but wasn't really the focus of your post, was it?