Hi need advice from CeFA experts

Concerns

Concerns

If you have logged onto this blog and you have concerns about the course or want more information about any of our vacancies please contact me. We will be able to give you a temporary log into our course so you can see how good it really is!!!

gingerandrubarb

I have just been contacted by a seperate person at Darnell advising he wants to help fix our problems with this, I have posted a small claims forms on Monday afternoon, So will let you all know if the claim goes through or if Darnell refund me my money, after all t would be cheaper for them to do so.good Luck guys

Concerns

Dear Lilyandlolas,

I have received a copy of your refund request and I have been trying to contact you on your landline. Could you please let me know a suitable time for me to contact you so I can discuss your refund request

Taafari

Concerns wrote:

Dear Taafari, We recognise your concerns regarding our training and the vacancies that we have and thank-you for bringing this to our attention. We can assure you that we are taking this very seriously and we have put in place a new compliance department. We have dismissed anybody that we believe has not been complying with our company policy. Over the past 12 years we have placed thousands of people in employment and will not tolerate consultants at this firm tarnishing our name. We would like the opportunity to show to you that our training is beneficial and that we do have some great opportunities for people looking to find work. Kind Regards

Hey 'Concerns', thanks for the PM. I'm glad to see I have brought my concerns to your attention. My video has been a real thorn in your !!! hasn't it? [TEXT DELETED].
Why didn't you post this message on the forum I wonder? Is it because it’s contradictory to all of the posts from you and Ben that seem to deny that there are any problems at all with Darnell International?
Anyway, I didn't fall for your crap and I haven't lost any money. [TEXT DELETED].
If there are thousands of people that you have found work, why is there not one comment from a genuine happy client of yours? Surely you could get some testimonials from your previous customers if that was the case? [TEXT DELETED].
Yes, the jobs you have posted on here do exist, but they are advertised on the same job websites that you post your adverts on and are usually advertised through legitimate agencies.
And I know that you contact these employers and offer to send them candidates. I know this because you contacted the recruitment manager for my employer. He couldn't work out why you were offering to send him clients FOR FREE until we discussed it. So I know for a FACT, that you phoned my employer (who is paying for my CEMAP training with no penalty if I was to leave) and offered to send him clients for free, which I believe is illegal as you are making your fees through the client and not the employer.
But anyway the point is that yes an employer might offer an interview, as a result of you forwarding them a CV, but if they did, it would be because you had a good CV, not because of any sort of affiliation that ‘Darnell’ has with the company. And yes of course it might help getting a job in Financial Services if you had the cefa/cemap module 1, but why pay £495 if you can pay £140 elsewhere?
I, like everyone else, was called a couple of hours after initially applying for your imaginary vacancy, and told that the employer had seen my CV, and it was the best CV he’d ever seen. I was told ‘congratulations, the job is yours’.
There is no employer. There is no job. If an employer had seen my CV and liked it, then they would want to call, and then I’d be told I didn’t need to pay for the training as they would provide it free, which would obviously ruin [TEXT DELETED].
So stop spamming these forums [TEXT DELETED]. Stop threatening people with legal action, because you’ve not got a leg to stand on, you will be shut down.

BenPhillips wrote: »

CAN YOU GUARENTEE A JOB It is very difficult for us to guarantee employment as we are not the employer, however we do have a few nationwide vacancies with networks and brokerages that will guarantee you a position provided that you pass the Financial Services criteria ie you do not have a criminal record, any bad debt and you can be seen to be a fit and proper person

[TEXT DELETED]. You can’t even spell guarantee. There is NO job. [TEXT DELETED]. So the jobs are guaranteed if they pass the course and meet the criteria?
One thing I can guarantee, is that not one single employer, would guarantee an employed position, without at least meeting their potential new employee. For the obvious reason, qualification or not, [TEXT DELETED].

BenPhillips wrote: »

HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO STUDY FOR THE EXAM CEFA 1 /CEMAP 1 Is a 4 day course CEFA 2,3 and 4 Are a further 4 days

Well the IFS school of finance recommend a minimum 60 hours preparation time. So 15 hours a day that would be. I was told it would take an hour a day for 8 days by your advisor. That’s 8 hours? I don’t think Albert Einstein could have done it in 8 hours.

BenPhillips wrote: »

WHAT IS YOUR REFUND POLICY Once you have enrolled on the course we do not give a refund. The reason for this is we have to pay a 50% royalty when you enroll on the course. If you were to do our classroom based course we would not give you a refund once you had done this either

Yes it’s true. You don’t give a refund, in fact you don’t actually give a sh”t once you’ve been paid.

BenPhillips wrote: »

I FEEL I HAVE BEEN MISLED We sell vocational courses in order for people to gain work in a regulated environment. We can not guarantee people that at the end of it they will get the job that they want but we will do our best to place you

Your contradicting yourself again, you just said you could guarantee the job if the criteria is met?

BenPhillips wrote: »

THIS IS JUST AN AVANCED SALES TECHNIQUE The amount of money we earn from selling a course is negligible in comparison to a recruitment fee. We earn 250 pounds from the sale of CEFA 1 but an average of 3000 pounds from placing somebody in work

I wouldn’t say it’s an advanced sales technique exactly, [TEXT DELETED]. You’re not salesmen, [TEXT DELETED]. Yes I’m sure you could potentially get more money from recruitment fees, but there would have to be real jobs for that. You make at least £350 from every poor mug that takes your crappy course, that’s not a bad earner.

BenPhillips wrote: »

WHY SHOULD I DO THE COURSE THROUGH DARNELL AND NOT JUST GO THROUGH THE IFS By all means you can get the books through the IFS and take the exam with them. We provide online video based training with assessments making it much easier to pass the exam. You will find it much easier and quicker to pass the exams if you use a training centre

You shouldn’t, you should just go through the IFS. Darnell training videos are absolutely pants, and their made by a young South African girl with no experience whatsoever in UK Financial Services.

BenPhillips wrote: »

WON’T THE EMPLOYER PAY FOR MY TRAINING Some employers will pay for training and in the past before the recession many companies would. If a company does pay your initial training look at the small print as they will often want you to pay them back about 2000 pounds if you leave within a certain period of time.

Most companies will still pay for training if they need to recruit. I applied for 3 jobs, one was Darnell, the 2nd was the one I accepted, and the 3rd company invited me to do an assessment day, but I had already accepted my 2nd offer. The 3rd company was also offering full CEFA training, a decent basic wage and a company car. With my company, I have to pass the 1st module within the 1st month, if I want to do the 2nd 3rd and 4th modules they’ll pay for that for me if and when I choose to do them.

BenPhillips wrote: »

WHAT ARE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS TO WORK IN THE INDUSTRY To start working in the industry you will need a minimum of Cefa 1/ Cemap 1

You only need to pass the 1st module if the job role you will be performing involves giving financial/mortgage advice. You can work in the industry without it. You can even process a mortgage and give a customer the available options to choose from without the qualification, as long as you’re not advising the customer on what product to take.

Taafari

Sweet! I can post links now. Check out the video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRmlpT1zpQ

BexInLondon

I'd just like to suggest that Ben Phillips look for an online training course in grammar, focusing perhaps on the appropriate use of the apostrophe.

Tell you what Ben, I'll provide the training for you. Listen carefully. There is no apostrophe when an 's' is used to make a plural. Thus you should have said that you were operating your scam (sorry, offering jobs) in many "areas" not "area's". Can I have £495 please? After all I have obviously saved you years of standard English education.

Might I also respectfully suggest that if you're going to post fake testimonials you at least use someone who can spell, punctuate and indeed string together a coherent sentence. I can't imagine high calibre candidates (or blue-chip financial institutions) being attracted to an agency which purports to find jobs for the illiterate, as charitable a cause as that may be.

gingerandrubarb

Concerns wrote: »

Dear Lilyandlolas,

I have received a copy of your refund request and I have been trying to contact you on your landline. Could you please let me know a suitable time for me to contact you so I can discuss your refund request

concerns, I have an answering machine and my wife is in all day,so i do know that no calls have taken place. All i have to know is if my refund IS or ISNT going to be processed, Please note the legal documents have been sent and you only really have this week to make your choice as to whether you are or aren't going to refund the money before the banns go out,

gingerandrubarb

Taafari wrote: »

Sweet! I can post links now. Check out the video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRmlpT1zpQ

ha ha ha exactly what happend on our call!

gingerandrubarb

lillyandlolas wrote: »

ha ha ha exactly what happend on our call!

Ha ha they got us interviews aparently and we !!!!ed it up! and they have tried to get us the jobs and they have contacted us all the time! b*ll poo!
Funny that they do all have 'accents' though.
They are also based in 27 hammersmith grove when KLW communications is based their!!!!!!!! hmmm

wickedaamit

Adrain and Co

I still havent heard back from you regarding my refund. I will be forced to go to consumer court in case I dont receive my money within the next week.Please revert.