The beginning of the end of political correctness - The Telegraph

wageslave

mewbie wrote: »

Problem is defining non-jobs. For instance I have no real need for a Black History month, but I am assuming it may give disenfranchised black people a measure of pride. Similarly International Womens day will pass me by, but again I am sure it has its purpose for those people it is aimed at.

It is very easy to target the non mainstream spending, and slip back to the 70's for a nice white heterosexual racist little Britain.

People love knocking the PC view of the world. Because just under the horizon are a whole cesspit of bigoted views waiting for a justification to resurface. And in a recession it doesn't take long to start looking for targets and people to blame.

I don't normally bother with this stuff - it's pointless - we all believe what we want and these sorts of views are not for changing.

I think we have moved on a bit since the seventies, I honestly dont think we are a nation of rabid bigots, Mewbie. We seem a pretty tolerant lot to me.
As for the disenfranchised, regardless of creed or colour, what they need is decent houses and jobs not a march around the High Street once a year.

Jennifer_Jane

LydiaJ wrote: »

Well I take your point, mewbie, and I agree with you up to a point. However... I'm a woman, and while we are obviously not a minority, we are a section of the population that do get special stuff organised for us. I don't like it. Except in special circumstances (one wouldn't want a mixed refuge for victims of sexual violence, for example) I'd rather things were integrated rather than segregated.

For example, a few years ago there was a big initiative to help women scientists and engineers back into the workplace after career breaks to have children. They planned to create a number of women-only part time jobs. Why did the part-time jobs have to be women-only?? The sort of full time working, standard career path man wouldn't apply for a part-time job even if it wasn't labelled women-only. Men who have some legitimate reason for wanting to work part time (such as a friend of mine who was in poor health at the time) need just as much help and are just as deserving of a chance of a job as women who want to work part time for more conventional reasons.

The same principle could be applied more widely. Rather than trying to give an artificial, segregated, divisive leg up to the disadvantaged, work out what sorts of things would help them, and let those things be open to everyone. Level the whole damn playing field, don't just fence off particular areas of grass and put platforms on stilts just on those.

Yep, agree. Too much diversity divides.

mewbie_2

LydiaJ wrote: »

Well I take your point, mewbie, and I agree with you up to a point...

And I take your point as well, but we are now into the sort of conversation you have as a twenty year old while sitting on bean bags and smoking pot all evening, putting the world to rights from a comfortable middle class conscience led view of things.

Er. Possibly said too much there.

Anyway - I still think he's a git.

StevieJ

mewbie wrote: »

And I take your point as well, but we are now into the sort of conversation you have as a twenty year old while sitting on bean bags and smoking pot all evening, putting the world to rights from a comfortable middle class conscience led view of things.

Er. Possibly said too much there.

Anyway - I still think he's a git.

He has to be a git, have you read those DM readers comments - Idolatry :eek:

wageslave

Isn't it nice to actually discuss something for a change:j

mewbie_2

wageslave wrote: »

Isn't it nice to actually discuss something for a change:j

Until I come along and say "well this whole anti PC thing was started by Apple" in a clumsy attempt to derail the Daily Mail brigade.

wageslave

mewbie wrote: »

Until I come along and say "well this whole anti PC thing was started by Apple" in a clumsy attempt to derail the Daily Mail brigade.

Or someone starts quoting house prices in Doncaster.

bluey890

StevieJ wrote: »

He has to be a git, have you read those DM readers comments - Idolatry :eek:

I think it's public sector workers* logging in, pretending to be DM readers, and idiolising him.
All part of a brilliantly thought out conspiracy to discredit him if you ask me.

*let's face it, the back office staff have the spare time.

mewbie_2

bluey890 wrote: »

*let's face it, the back office staff have the spare time.

For one dreadful moment I thought you had typed black office staff. That may be my inner racist coming to the fore. You see, it's inside everyone. I need to go on a march or something.

edit: of course it could just be these glasses.

mewbie_2

Blimey. I seem to have killed this thread stone dead. One mention of the black word. It's PC gone mad I tell you.