illegal right turn, can i appeal?

why_why_why

Coblcris wrote: »

I take it that this is a council ticket and not from the police ?
If so why are people discussing who was driving ?

i don't understand your point. Are you saying it doesn't matter who is driving as no points are received?

DaveF327

Mark_Hewitt wrote: »

I sounds like your friend did a no right turn and was caught, not much you can do I think! However it's not your responsibility. As the registered keeper you are only required to inform the authorities who was driving.

Claiming you don't know who was driving doesn't seem to wash any more!

Sadly, in London, it doesn't matter whether the owner was or wasn't the driver; the owner is liable to the charge. See the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, section 4(5).

Of course, failing to comply with a no right turn sign doesn't involve any penalty points, so the moral question of who was driving isn't that important. I'd have words with your friend though.

flyingscotno1

Coblcris wrote: »

I take it that this is a council ticket and not from the police ?
If so why are people discussing who was driving ?

Yes, correct. If this is a council ticket (and it is) the responsibility is with the owner, similar to bus lanes etc. I had initially not realised that. Totally rubbish system but there you have it.

What can you do now- have words with your friend and get them to pay it might be an option but you have to make sure that they do, because you'll be the one that will get a clamped car and the hassle (not to mention end of a friendship!) if it is not paid!

Neil_B

has anyone actually seen the PCN yet?

usual poor image facility here and I can't get those links to work.

peter_the_piper

Neil_B wrote: »

has anyone actually seen the PCN yet?

usual poor image facility here and I can't get those links to work.

there is an unwanted gap before the us in the link.

peter_the_piper

Just looked at the only pic I could get to work and it shows a car turning left, whats going on? The pcn says a banned right turn. Am I missing something?

why_why_why

sorry about the link, but that's the only way i could post it. I placed a gap before us to make it look like a new sentence. Every thing else i tried was prohibitted.

peter_the_piper

OK, but what about my query?

why_why_why

peter_the_piper wrote: »

OK, but what about my query?

That's all the pics i have. I emailed Hackney council for more pics. (in hindsight I should have sent a letter recorded delivery). The driver could have turned left.

why_why_why

here are the llinks again. it is missing http:// and there is also a space between "." and "us"


img220.imageshack. us/img220/9059/hckfront.jpg
img233.imageshack. us/img233/1671/hckback.jpg
img139.imageshack. us/img139/9536/hckback2.jpg