Money Moral Dilemma: Would you park free if it blocked wheelchair access?

Invasion

MOST dyslexic people can read, it may take them longer and they may find it harder, but the majority of people with dyslexia can read.
I cannot understand how people can make this out to be the disabled person's fault! How DARE they use their wheelchair in public, and expect to be able to get it into and out of their car! Seriously, everyone should have to use a wheelchair for a day/week to gain SOME understanding of how difficult it can make simple things.

mum23monkeys

The dilemma doesn't state that the free space is a disabled space in which case,yes I'd park there.
If it was a disabled space,then no,I wouldn't park there.
Surely,the guy should have parked in a disabled space which is designed to give them all the space they need??
I'm not allowed to park in a disabled space so if they need the space they should have thought their parking through more clearly.....
People don't allow me car-door room to get my children in and out of their car seats so does that mean if I put signs up in my windows,people won't be allowed to park either side of my car to allow me the space I need to open my car doors fully to easily strap my children in their seats??

englishmac

nathanhill69 wrote: »

Could not agree more with all of your comments although I'm guessing that some posters on this thread would probably let that door slam in the other persons face:rolleyes:.

I also find it odd how people say "having children is a lifestyle choice" - it's not like buying a Porsche or an iPhone. Also, people should remember that the youth of today will actually be funding the services, such as the NHS, you will be using as you get older. I just pity the twisted version of morals some posters seem to regard as justified and right - it really is a clear demonstration of the "I'm all right Jack, pull the ladder up" philosophy that seems prevalent.

Having children is a lifestyle choice. It may not be like buying an inanimate object but it is still a personal choice. It is unlikely that the youth of today will actually be funding the services you speak of as we get older. This is an argument I often see used to justify the remainder of society having to fall over itself to help parents and their offspring. It is far more likely that we will have to fund our own pensions and adopt a private/insurance healthcare system. In the meantime, the huge cost of maternity and paediatric care not to mention the cost of education, is being partly funded by people who don’t have children. We are already helping parents with this less visible support due to the nature of the society we live in.

There are many parents who work hard raising their kids to be good citizens whilst they enjoy nurturing them. Many also work hard to pay all or a good proportion of the cost of their upbringing. Unfortunately, it is the badly behaved children (of which there are many) and the people who think they should be paid to reproduce that stand out.

And no, I wouldn't let the door slam in someone's face.

unicornstar

englishmac wrote: »

This is an argument I often see used to justify the remainder of society having to fall over itself to help parents and their offspring.

I hardly think parents with young children having a few separate spaces in a car park causes society to fall over itself to help parents and their offspring. You were a child once remember, would you have begrudged your parents having something provided for them to make their lives easier and make situations safer for you as you were growing up?

nathanhill69

englishmac wrote: »

Having children is a lifestyle choice. It may not be like buying an inanimate object but it is still a personal choice. It is unlikely that the youth of today will actually be funding the services you speak of as we get older. This is an argument I often see used to justify the remainder of society having to fall over itself to help parents and their offspring. It is far more likely that we will have to fund our own pensions and adopt a private/insurance healthcare system. In the meantime, the huge cost of maternity and paediatric care not to mention the cost of education, is being partly funded by people who don’t have children. We are already helping parents with this less visible support due to the nature of the society we live in.

There are many parents who work hard raising their kids to be good citizens whilst they enjoy nurturing them. Many also work hard to pay all or a good proportion of the cost of their upbringing. Unfortunately, it is the badly behaved children (of which there are many) and the people who think they should be paid to reproduce that stand out.

And no, I wouldn't let the door slam in someone's face.

What can one say to such a blinkered and distorted World view? The answer is nothing as your perceptions are so far rooted from reality that any eloquent argument would be a wasted. For once I'm just going to sit back reeling from every mis-guided and wrong footed assertion and assumption contained in your post. Your views would be laughable if they weren't said in such earnest.

unicornstar

Magic-Ian wrote: »

However the council have said that they will give over the ground floor of the car park for lazy B parking bays. That way you will not have to walk past the disabled bays to do your shopping.

What are "lazy B parking bays"?
I hope you weren't implying that I don't want to walk past disabled bays to do my shopping? If you were I thing you misread what I wrote!

claire07

No. There is no excuse forthis selfishness!

Too many lardarses and selfcentred do this!

PINKLADY_4

No I would not..... Having taken my disabled aunt out on many shopping/ hosptial trips I know how difficult, if not impossible, it can be to get her out of the car when there is not enough room. Many times I have had to pull up, get my aunt out then leave her to go and park the car.So no I would not do it.

englishmac

unicornstar wrote: »

I hardly think parents with young children having a few separate spaces in a car park causes society to fall over itself to help parents and their offspring. You were a child once remember, would you have begrudged your parents having something provided for them to make their lives easier and make situations safer for you as you were growing up?

In isolation perhaps. It's the vehement attitudes that go with the posts in general - you only need to look through previous posts to notice the thread.

englishmac

nathanhill69 wrote: »

What can one say to such a blinkered and distorted World view? The answer is nothing as your perceptions are so far rooted from reality that any eloquent argument would be a wasted. For once I'm just going to sit back reeling from every mis-guided and wrong footed assertion and assumption contained in your post. Your views would be laughable if they weren't said in such earnest.

Blinkered/distorted/far rooted from reality/mis-guided/wrong footed how exactly? Simply counter arguments pointing out that a lot of contributions are made without recognition or appreciation. Do you honestly expect to be drawing a state funded pension in 30 years time? Or having a health service that provides treatment as and when required? Don't think so.