Money Moral Dilemma: Would you park free if it blocked wheelchair access?

Bionic

kerryla_rain21 What if i was a disabled driver? Should i still not park there because the other vehicle would be in the same delima? Whether i am disabled or not it would still cause a problem. I don't think blocking a disabled driver in is the right thing to do. However if the driver of the car in front knew they needed 6 feet for wheel chair access then they should have thought about parking somewhere more convenient for themselves and other vehicles.

There seem to be so many subscribers who all believe that there is always another an suitable place for the driver to park - where is this Utopian place!?

Bionic

Magic-Ian wrote: »

Yes they are very inconsiderate. Disabled drivers should not be allowed to park so that an able bodied person has to walk a couple of yards further. In fact lets ban them from driving and make them walk everywhere. After all it's a big con isn't it.? Think about it. When they parked there was a space behind them. So they did take it into consideration.

Well said!
Ian that's a great idea then I can give up work altogether as I wont be able to get there - or have any money to spend on shopping - or cheques to bank - get into debt - and if I want to go anywhere I can push my chair in the road as the pavements are so often badly maintained (or non-existent). Then when I get tired of that I can be a drain on the state - grabbing all the benefits I can and just wait for the assembled intelligencia to suggest that money can be saved by simply removing disabled people altogether!
Wasn't there an evil little man with a moustache in the 30's and 40's who had that idea first?

After that of course it'll be another nuisance category to exterminate and then another until all the selfish B******* are happy and content - .....or will they then turn on each other?
:rotfl::mad:

Chemistry106

NEVER!
My Mother was in a wheel chair for several years and I got really hacked off with able -bodied lazy and/or penny pinching gits who either blocked wheel chair access or took up the disabled places when I took her shopping" because they were only going to be there for a short time"

Just remember that there for the grace of God, go YOU in the future and stop being so bloody selfish!

The same goes for Mother &Toddler spaces at supermarkets too.....I was incensed that there was a "white Van Man" parked up and eating his sandwhich in a M&T space at my local supermarket, so I had to struggle to get my 18month Grandaughter out of the car in a normal parking spot.

It is pure selfishness and I'm sad to see that some people on here are so selfish.
Hopefully, those selfish people will end up in wheelchairs in the future and will then rightly get shat on by the next generation of selfish people!

felinexxxx

No! I wouldn't like it if someone blocked me in so that I couldn't get into my car, so I wouldn't do it to someone else, disabled or not. It's common courtesy, surely?

tara747

OK, here is the text from the first post:

You're busy and town's even busier - all the usually available free on-street parking's gone. But after driving round for 15 minutes you spot a space, pull in, then notice a sign on the back of the car in front requesting, "please leave a six-foot gap between my car and yours so I can get the wheelchair in and out of the boot". If you stay there, there'd be a foot at most, but the alternative's an NCP at £5/hour.

Am I correct in assuming that it is a normal space and that the disabled driver has chosen to park just behind it? I said in my post that I would park there, if I really needed to do an errand and it was just for a matter of minutes (and if I knew for a fact that I wasn't going to encounter a longer queue than expected e.g. in the bank etc etc).

It is not an actual disabled space, so the disabled driver knew that they were taking a risk that someone would park behind it. Fair enough. Disabled drivers should not be restricted to parking only in disabled spaces. But they do know that there *may* be someone in the space behind theirs when they return. I would leave my mobile number on the windscreen in case they return the very second I leave.

I would also be as quick as humanly possible. If by some chance they were there when I got back two minutes later, I would say sorry for inconveniencing them and probably have a nice chat about the weather and such (cos I'm a chatty person).

I don't think that's being inconsiderate, is it?

(As I have said, I would never ever ever park in a disabled space)

SusanC_2

tara747 wrote: »

It is not an actual disabled space, so the disabled driver knew that they were taking a risk that someone would park behind it. Fair enough. Disabled drivers should not be restricted to parking only in disabled spaces. But they do know that there *may* be someone in the space behind theirs when they return. I would leave my mobile number on the windscreen in case they return the very second I leave.

Doesn't this apply to anyone parking anywhere? I used to live in a city centre where all the available aprking required parallel parking unless you got an end space. Would it be okay for two people to park so close to me that I couldn't get out on the basis that I parked there knowing there was a risk of being parked in?

Even in a regular car park you take that risk. Just a couple of weeks ago I had to climb through from the passenger side because someone had parked so close to me. I am fairly thin and had parked more or less perfectly in the middle of my space but the person next me had parked right on the white line. If the person on the other side had done the same I couldn't have got in. Would you argue that I knowingly rant he risk of being parked in?

It is all about common courtesy to others. In normal circumstances people know how much space they need to leave to allow someone access to their car but since a disabled person needs more it is necessary for them to indicate this otherwise how will other people know?

A.Jones

englishmac wrote: »

Having children is a lifestyle choice. It may not be like buying an inanimate object but it is still a personal choice. It is unlikely that the youth of today will actually be funding the services you speak of as we get older. This is an argument I often see used to justify the remainder of society having to fall over itself to help parents and their offspring. It is far more likely that we will have to fund our own pensions and adopt a private/insurance healthcare system. In the meantime, the huge cost of maternity and paediatric care not to mention the cost of education, is being partly funded by people who don’t have children. We are already helping parents with this less visible support due to the nature of the society we live in.

So how will your self funded pension work in the future if there were no children today, that will become workers in the future?

You put the money in the bank - the economy will collapse if no workers, so your money will be worthless.

You put your money into property - it will be worthless as there will not be anyone to live in it.

Your privately funded healthcare - who will administer it? Today's children that grow up to be tomorrow's doctors and nurses.

Your future (self funded) pension will depend on today's children, whether they are your children or not.

As for you paying for the costs of the education of other people's children, who paid for your education. You get "free" education as a child, and pay for it later as an adult. Those taxes you pay now to educate other people's children are what you owe to pay for your own education.

jojangles_2

No, i certainly would not

zygurat789

Surely all the disabled driver had to do was park the other wasy round and then there would have been no problem. Even the disabled should be considerate.

nathanhill69

zygurat789 wrote: »

Surely all the disabled driver had to do was park the other wasy round and then there would have been no problem. Even the disabled should be considerate.

I don't think there is any indication in the original dilemma that there is available space at the other end of the parking space - reading the dilemma I assume the disabled driver is parallel parked in a row of cars.