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I need help...ex been awarded nil assessment?

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  • CRANKY40
    CRANKY40 Posts: 5,931 Forumite
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    A departure is what it says on the packet - a departure from the set assessment. Persons with care may apply for instance if the non resident parent has a partner who could contribute to housing costs, and non resident parents may apply if they have debts relating to the relationship which produced the child concerned, making them less able to pay maintenance.

    They're the only examples I can think of just now.
  • willow_loulou
    willow_loulou Posts: 1,067 Forumite
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    I know what you mean, some people just have no morals :mad:

    Even last year when my DD saw her biological father for a couple of months, if she went anywhere with him I gave her money and once he was taking her to get her a new top so I gave him the money for it, I thought it was only fair as he was giving me £72 a week at the time.

    At least I can live with myself knowing I'm a decent person who's doing my best to bring my DD with what little money I have and she loves me unconditionally. On the other hand she's come to the conclusion herself that her biological father is a complete waste of space and doesn't ever want to speak to him again.

    The holidays haven't been too bad, swimming is free for children now so she's been doing that at least 3 times a week.

    I hope you're managing ok during the holidays too, I don't know how you manage with more than one child:eek: And as for them having a good life/house etc. One thing I've learnt from this site is that most people that have all those things have it on credit so things might not be as good for them as you think. You get to wake up to your children everyday and although that might not always feel like a blessing it is, and it's priceless :D I know it won't count for much, but I care about your situation and I really really feel for you, it's just ashame that I can't do anything about it.

    You know, just getting the reply means so much, sometimes I feel utterly alone as I know no one else in my situation. You are obviously a very decent person and a great Mum. :D I actually love the holidays, I cant do very much physically but I spent lot of time when they were still at school voucher hunting and searching for free open days etc. The best yet was free entry to the grounds of an english heritidge castle, it was by the sea with loads of space for the kids to run, a sea moat to crab line in and we could take the dog. They loved it. Having two at least means I can sit a rest whilst the older runs after the younger!
    Financially its very hard but I have the luxury of a small daughter who gets given lovely second hand clothes and a son who isnt overly fussed about brand names etc. I do have to juggle things, I have a long list of needs/wants - today though I found the door hadles I wanted for my bare bathroom door for £2 in b@q sale. I have also learnt to tile (am doing the kitchen - b@q value tiles buy a box or adhiesive once a month!) and have bought huge needles to knit scarves and blankets with (my knackered hands can manage them a few mins at a time)

    Thanks for caring xxxxx :D:D:D
    Life happens, live it well.
  • Bowski_1011
    Bowski_1011 Posts: 1,041 Forumite
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    You know, just getting the reply means so much, sometimes I feel utterly alone as I know no one else in my situation. You are obviously a very decent person and a great Mum. :D I actually love the holidays, I cant do very much physically but I spent lot of time when they were still at school voucher hunting and searching for free open days etc. The best yet was free entry to the grounds of an english heritidge castle, it was by the sea with loads of space for the kids to run, a sea moat to crab line in and we could take the dog. They loved it. Having two at least means I can sit a rest whilst the older runs after the younger!
    Financially its very hard but I have the luxury of a small daughter who gets given lovely second hand clothes and a son who isnt overly fussed about brand names etc. I do have to juggle things, I have a long list of needs/wants - today though I found the door hadles I wanted for my bare bathroom door for £2 in b@q sale. I have also learnt to tile (am doing the kitchen - b@q value tiles buy a box or adhiesive once a month!) and have bought huge needles to knit scarves and blankets with (my knackered hands can manage them a few mins at a time)

    Thanks for caring xxxxx :D:D:D

    Aww that was a lovely post, it sounds like you and your children have plenty of fun! Well done you for learning to tile, I'd never know how to do anything like that in a million years! Great news about the cheap door handles too :D

    I got another payment off the CSA today, that's 2 now since I received a letter about the nil assessment. I daren't spend it as one woman I spoke to said anything I get paid since the nil assessment I'll have to pay back. Why can't they get anything right :mad: Am I getting it or am I not :confused:
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  • LizzieS_2
    LizzieS_2 Posts: 2,948 Forumite
    I got another payment off the CSA today, that's 2 now since I received a letter about the nil assessment. I daren't spend it as one woman I spoke to said anything I get paid since the nil assessment I'll have to pay back. Why can't they get anything right :mad: Am I getting it or am I not :confused:

    Typical of the csa to not explain why you would have to pay it back/not bother explaining what payments were due.

    Without knowing much about your case it is hard to give a definate answer either way. I will give you a few pointers though.

    Look at when the nil assessment was effective, compared to the date it was sent. Sometimes the csa are very quick to issue nil assessments, so quick there are still payments due to you. Next look at what your previous payment schedule said - anything due to you before the effective nil assessment date is yours, anything within a week later is usually also due to you or part of it is (on the basis it usually takes a week for them to transfer payments).
  • enemes
    enemes Posts: 909 Forumite
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    Good one Lizzie ... will look at mine tomorrow ...:T
    :wave:
  • enemes
    enemes Posts: 909 Forumite
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    nicnacnoo wrote: »
    i dont get it either, surely he must pay something? i get £5 a week for my DD and her dad works 16 hours, that is on CSA2 tho so not sure if that makes any difference?

    Hi nicnacnoo ...

    My ex is on CSA2, but on benefits. i thought I would get a fiver/tenner each week also. She has just been assessed at NIL, and apparently does not need to pay anything towards arrears that she has built up over the last few years.

    None of it makes sense to me anymore ...
    :wave:
  • Blonde_Bint
    Blonde_Bint Posts: 1,262 Forumite
    Thats not right enemes, on CSA2 you definately get something even the fiver, if I were you i'd query it. Only on CSA1 can you be awarded a nil assessment. I thought the only people who paid nothing on CSA2 were people in prison and perhaps students at college or university.

    Go for it enemes because if the boot were on the other foot she would. 20 quid a month though not much money, will contribute to eg. a new pair of shoes when the old ones are worn out, new winter coat for the start of the school year etc.

    I'm sick of people being taken to the cleaners then when the boots on the other foot they get f*ck all :mad: kin typical it really is. :mad::mad:

    Enemes, the only reason we've had a relatively easy time of it lately is because we have nothing left lol. and our PWC believes if she took us to court (shes enjoyed that over the years her little hobby) we would get legal aid and seeing as she gets everything we can give right now, a court wouldnt award her anymore, there literally isnt any more:D. The credit crunch has actually done me a favour. It looks like we lived in sh*t and crap thrown at us by her because she was jealous of our life I didnt know that at the time though.
  • enemes
    enemes Posts: 909 Forumite
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    Thanks for that BB

    I know exactly how you feel ... your whole life dictated by other people who just can reason anymore. Sadly, I too am becoming bitter and twisted as this whole charade unfolds.

    Some dim wit at Bolton told me this morning that because my kids go to hers for one night a week, I am not entitled to anything!

    My ex is like that too, dragging me into and out of court at a whim, because she gets Legal Aid. You are right ... sometimes you are better off having nothing!
    :wave:
  • Blonde_Bint
    Blonde_Bint Posts: 1,262 Forumite
    edited 11 August 2009 at 3:14PM
    lol ya gotta :D cos your dead right. Today as I type n breathe I am better off than I have been ever in the past. In respect of living in peace and not having to be on the reciving end of abusive phone calls. I have no incentive to do better in life at the moment because if we do something like change our car for a slightly less clapped out one :rotfl: she might start it up again.

    I put peace and quiet before stuff and things (ipods cars jewellery that kind of stuff) I dont want it, it turns out I have a quieter life without it.

    lol step son let slip that if I get a job shes going to try to get my earnings, if I get a job I will have to pay a childminder so the Mr thinks I should shelve it for now as I could end up working for literally nothing, possisble it could cost me because you have to pay a childminder holiday pay plus pay someone else to look after your child if you cant get the time off work.
  • enemes
    enemes Posts: 909 Forumite
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    lol step son let slip that if I get a job shes going to try to get my earnings

    Surely, if she is on CSA2, then she can't claim any of your earnings, just your DH's
    :wave:
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