Bad attitude to os?

Rachie_B

ooh i watch life of grime,from behind hands usually lol

as its so gross what states some of the places are in !!!

calleyw

Rachie_B wrote:

also re renting ,a lot of properties are in a bad state of internal decoration etc ancient kitchens and bathrooms etc and i dont think its as easy as "if it needs a new kitchen etc you don't pay out the money the landlord does"
as getting them to do these things is hard !!
a lot of them dont care so long as they are getting their money paid and theres always someone else who will rent it out if you arent happy type attitude

if you can find a "nice" landlord who will do these things / allow you to decorate etc then you are very lucky lol

I am talking in theory what happens in real life is another matter and as you say just depends on how good or bad the new landlord is. But you are not the one who is suppose to be forking out for things like new kitchens/bathrooms or new central systems.

And I know they are not cheap. Having forked over 4K for a new boiler and new system in August last year.

If you own your property then you have foot the bill like we did as are not any benefits or get tax credits etc so we get no help what so ever. The sames goes for when I need a new kitchen it is going to be coming directly out my pocket.

When I have to pay for things like that. I just wish I could go back and live with parents. Now that would far cheaper LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yours


Calley

doddsy

It has been mentioned several times that wealthy people don't seem to mind wearing 2nd hand stuff and shopping at places like Lidl, whereas 'poorer' people will only by new and designer etc.

Don't you think it's due to confidence?. and part of that confidence is knowing who you are and where you have come from in life? The less well off usually don't have that surety and perhaps feel the need to compensate?

Many years ago my dad worked for a Lord, who walked around like a tramp and would even go to meetings dressed like one. He didn't give a fig because he know he owned several 000 acres and being the richest one there had absolutely nothing to prove.

Bargain_Rzl

For the record, my main motivation for wanting my own place is the knowledge that eventually I will own it. The knowledge that although interest rates might rise and fall, I will in the long term escape the inflation trap that people who rent all their lives never get out of. And I would aim to overpay the mortgage wherever possible - a choice not open to me if I spend my life renting.

If I wanted career mobility, I might feel differently - but I know I want to be in London for the long haul. Let's face it, if I didn't I could have been living somewhere cheaper and bought a small house a few years ago :rolleyes:

I do not want to be at the mercy of other people's decisions; my first London address was a share of a house I absolutely loved, in an area I was happy in, but I was forced to move when my landlady decided to sell up. The next address lasted just 8 months (shared with friends whose circumstances changed) and proved a BIG financial mistake, as the place was unfurnished so I spent hundreds of pounds getting my furniture sent down from my mum's place, then had to move out into furnished accommodation again and waste thousands over the course of 3 years in storing my furniture!

My long-term security (hence wanting to own a property) is very important to me, and I do like to have as much autonomy as possible when it comes to major decisions in life (like whether I can stay living in a place I like!). My church and my music are also important to me, and are the main reasons why being in London is important to me. Designer clothes and fancy food are NOT important to me in the slightest and I'm not about to jeopardise my future and my enjoyment of life for the sake of keeping up with the Joneses.

Chipps

doddsy wrote:

Don't you think it's due to confidence?. and part of that confidence is knowing who you are and where you have come from in life? The less well off usually don't have that surety and perhaps feel the need to compensate?

To be honest, yes I think it is. It is like when council houses were first put up for sale, and the people who bought their council house would do something like slapping stone cladding all over the outside of the house, or putting horses heads on the gate posts (yes, I have seen this - sadly they didn't last there long) If you are comfortable with yourself you don't feel the need to prove anything to anyone else.

Hermia

doddsy wrote:

It has been mentioned several times that wealthy people don't seem to mind wearing 2nd hand stuff and shopping at places like Lidl, whereas 'poorer' people will only by new and designer etc.

Don't you think it's due to confidence?. and part of that confidence is knowing who you are and where you have come from in life? The less well off usually don't have that surety and perhaps feel the need to compensate?

Many years ago my dad worked for a Lord, who walked around like a tramp and would even go to meetings dressed like one. He didn't give a fig because he know he owned several 000 acres and being the richest one there had absolutely nothing to prove.

Excellent point! I come from a poor working class family and grew up in a dreadful area. I was an intelligent and bookish child and determined to get a good education despite my background. I now have a BA and a Master's degree and although I don't earn a lot of money I work in a profession which contributes to society. At the risk of sounding like a bighead (which I definitely am not!) I am excellent at my job and I'm an intelligent and reasonably cultured person. BUT despite all my hard work I am still looked down on by my 'betters'. I used to work with wealthy people and they would just look at me like I was a slug! A couple of years ago I attempted to join my local National Trust group as I am interested in conservation. The group consisted of posh people who all looked down their noses at me despite the fact that I'm friendly and could have contributed a lot to the group using my professional skills. I have since found out that they even look down on the property manager because he is not the right sort! I just didn't have the right accent alas. One day, this woman was being really snooty to me and she made a derogatory remark about where I come from. I asked her what exactly she had done with her life to make her feel she was superior. She started going on about what her father and husband had achieved and I went, "No, what have YOU achieved?"!!!

I don't care what people think of me, but there are times I feel out of my depth, especially at work. I admit I do put on my best suit and most expensive shoes and bag when I know I am going to have a meeting with people who have come from a better background simply because it's one less thing to worry about. Although I do like nice things I don't buy many expensive things and when I do buy them for my own pleasure. I can understand what motivates the poor to spend money on consumer goods. The media tells us these goods make us somebody and society does judge people by what they own. My neighbour came from an even poorer background than me and he owns a brand new BMW even though it is a strain on his finances. He says the car is his 'up yours' to all the people who put him down when he was young. I think it is sad that he still cares what people think, but I can understand his motivation.

FZwanab

As the saying goes "manners maketh the man" or woman. It doesn't matter where you come from, manners can show you who has real class. You can get "new money" licking their knives or using foul language, it shows they weren't born rich. Alternatively you can have someone with good manners and a good education scraping by perhaps originally from a poorer area, but if you have manners it shows your class. It doesn't matter if you don't have that Audi tt or Jag in the driveway. As someone else posted those that do have these are either in a lot of debt or they are compensating for something.

Spendless

Loadsabob wrote:

Then I would send nothing! Seriously! They'd soon think twice!

It wouldn't make slightest bit of difference cos not everyone would do this. It isn't a school ruling, it's a LEA one. The only reason I can think of is it's to do with health and hygiene and the possibility of action against the school in the case of an allergy. School parties do not have sandwiches at them, nor can you send in any homemade cakes/buns. I know of at least one member on here who says his kids school has banned cocktail sticks as being too dangerous -so I'm waiting for that one to come in. Strangely when the school does a christmas bazaar you can go in and help the kids bake cakes for them to sell, but it has to be cooked on school premises. So you can eat a cake made by a 5 year old, s/he just can't eat one you made :rolleyes:

Hermia

Spendless wrote:

It wouldn't make slightest bit of difference cos not everyone would do this. It isn't a school ruling, it's a LEA one. The only reason I can think of is it's to do with health and hygiene and the possibility of action against the school in the case of an allergy. School parties do not have sandwiches at them, nor can you send in any homemade cakes/buns. I know of at least one member on here who says his kids school has banned cocktail sticks as being too dangerous -so I'm waiting for that one to come in. Strangely when the school does a christmas bazaar you can go in and help the kids bake cakes for them to sell, but it has to be cooked on school premises. So you can eat a cake made by a 5 year old, s/he just can't eat one you made :rolleyes:

I can understand why schools take these seemingly mad decisions. I'm a Librarian and we have to be so careful when working with children. I'm a first aider and can't put a plaster on a hurt child even if the parent okays it (we have to use bandages to dress tiny cuts which is good actually because the kid is so chuffed with the bandage that the crying instantly stops!). We have also been told we can't have face painters at library events etc. Unfortunately I have met enough parents who blame the library staff for any accident their child is involved in even if it was the parent's fault!

Smiley_Mum

I never used to shop at NEXT as I always thought it was expensive for clothes for kids. Never shop there for myself though. I either go to Tescos or Adams. A few weeks ago though I went in and saw that NEXT jeans for kids were cheaper than Adams (and that was when Adams' stuff was in the sale). The NEXT jeans were £7.99 and had adjustable waistbands and more length in the legs too and better finished, denim was of better quality too. I don't buy a lot of clothes for the kids, just enough, no point in buying a lot of stuff and then them not getting wear out of it. Would rather buy a little bit of something decent at a good price than buy a lot of something that wasn't going to last. Some things in NEXT are expensive but jeans for my boys are a good buy for me, and they'll get plenty wear out of them.