LL won't let us have a dog..

MissMoneypenny

an1179 wrote: »

We rented a house to a couple - they had a small dog.

When they left the house was infested with dog fleas!

How did you know they were dog fleas? There is the human flea, which can also live on cats and dogs.

"The human flea is found all over the world. Besides man, it infests cats, dogs, and many other domestic animals, particularly the pig. It breeds in profusion in pigsties, and people working in them can readily pick up large numbers of fleas and start infestations in their homes. The human flea is usually the most important species in farm areas. While the bites of the cat flea tend to be concentrated on the lower parts of the legs, those of the human flea may be generally distributed over the body (Keh and Barnes, 1961)."

Not for those with a delicate disposition.
http://www.the-piedpiper.co.uk/th5a.htm

I fumigate a house before I move in.

Gwhiz

I knew a man with one leg once!

This has as much relevance to this thread as all the other pet/fleas/dirt/lazy posts.

hayley11

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Personally I think the whys and wherefores of why you want a dog aren't relevant to the question you've posed. I also think it's extremely unlikely that a LL who's already said 'no' will change his mind on the basis that you ask again via letter.

The one thing which does trouble me though is that you say that you're worried/frightened about dogs you don't know. If you're out walking a Lab (and they're really going to need long, off-lead walks in open countryside if you want them to have as nice a life as possible) you're almost certain to get other dogs coming up to you at some point or other.

There's one Lab on my usual walk who's friends with my dog and he launches himself at me from 4ft away to say hello. I regularly get dogs running up to say 'hello'. Then there's the odd occasion where you get a not-so-friendly dog - you may find yourself in a position one day where you physically have to pull another dog off yours.

I'd think very carefully about that side of things when you are in a position to get a dog though (whether in your current place or somewhere else) because dogs attract dogs. Your own dog will need to meet and play with other dogs to be properly socialised, which means you'll have to get used to it too unfortunately!

Do you not think I run into dogs now? Do you not think i've ever walked a dog? Despite the fact I grew up with them? I know that dogs will want to play with my dog (when I eventually get one) I'm not scared of them to the extent where I can't even walk near one.

I said I am scared of dogs in that I wouldn't want to work in a rescue centre where dogs have been through god only knows what and I wouldn't know how they would react. I admire the people that do it but it isn't something I would ever do.

And you're right, whether I am capable or not (although I know I am!) isn't the issue at all.

Daz1

From the LL perspective, he may be worried about setting a precedent. If he allows you one, others may want to get pets too which opens a can of worms for him and aggro that he may not want to deal with.

From the pet perspective, if you have to move to another rented accom, you may not be able to take it with you. Would this be fair on the pet?

MissMoneypenny

MissMoneypenny wrote: »

How did you know they were dog fleas? There is the human flea, which can also live on cats and dogs.

However, it seems that the cat flea and dog flea can't live on humans and just die out if there isn't a host around. Its the cat flea and human flea that bite humans.

[SIZE=+1]"Cat and dog fleas are very similar in appearance and both species can live on both cats and dogs. Humans are mainly attacked by cat fleas. A cat or dog may have a light infestation of fleas without the human inhabitants knowing it, but if the pets are carrying large numbers of fleas, then there is naturally a greater likelihood of humans being bitten. A heavy infestation may occur if the cat or dog is removed from the house, for then the insect has no alternative but to feed off us. In such cases one may comfort oneself with the fact that the cat and dog fleas cannot breed without their principle hosts, and so eventually the infestation will die out on its own. On the other hand, they can live for months on a diet of human blood, so it needs an unusual amount of patience to wait until the fleas die of old age."

http://www.the-piedpiper.co.uk/th5b.htm
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Jomo

hayley11 wrote: »

It was good advice, but wasn't relevent to me and is not something I would ever do. Tell me, before anybody thinks about getting a pet, do they have to volunteer at a rescue centre in order to justify them wanting one? Or is just me? :rolleyes:

It really is making me laugh that people have taken such a offense that I won't volunteer in a rescue centre :rotfl: Despite the fact that I struggle a lot with the volunteering I do now, some people are still not happy :rotfl: Surely any volunteering is better than none? Where do you volunteer Jomo?

I don't volunteer anywhere, I work full time so what little time I do have left to myself I have to do everything else!

Why take offense?

You came on here looking for advice, we didn't knock on your doorstep wanted to have a nosey into your life.

Get a dog, do whatever you want but don't snap at the first person who has a different opinion to yours...or if you don't like what they suggest.

From what you were saying I took the opinion that you might not beable to cope with a big dog...if I'm wrong then fair dos.

You say I was judging you but I was only going off the information you gave and that's it!

Welshwoofs

hayley11 wrote: »

Do you not think I run into dogs now? Do you not think i've ever walked a dog? Despite the fact I grew up with them? I know that dogs will want to play with my dog (when I eventually get one) I'm not scared of them to the extent where I can't even walk near one.

People can grow up with dogs and then develop a fear later on - my comments were purely based on what you've said about being worried touching dogs you don't know (you didn't specify that the worry was only applicable to dogs you don't know in rescue centres rather than dogs you don't know in general).

I haven't said you're not capable of looking after a dog - it's frankly none of my business whether you are, or aren't.

My other half is bi-polar and us having a dog helps him greatly during his 'down' times as it gives him an excuse to go out for long walks and get away from it all for a bit so I can entirely sympathise with your desire to get a 4-legged friend.

I do think this is all academic though as your LL has already said 'no' so you've had your answer. However I would say that if a dog helps with your depression (as it does with many people) it sounds like it'd benefit you to do doggie walking for somebody else's hound

mlz1413

hayley11 wrote: »

It was good advice, but wasn't relevent to me and is not something I would ever do. Tell me, before anybody thinks about getting a pet, do they have to volunteer at a rescue centre in order to justify them wanting one? Or is just me? :rolleyes:

It really is making me laugh that people have taken such a offense that I won't volunteer in a rescue centre :rotfl: Despite the fact that I struggle a lot with the volunteering I do now, some people are still not happy :rotfl: Surely any volunteering is better than none? Where do you volunteer Jomo?

I think you are taking this too personally - the advise was if the LL refuses why not help at a rescue centre.
Then on finding out you struggle with health it seemed that not having your own dog maybe a good route for commitment reasons.
BUT as you have stressed you want a puppy for various reasons but a main one being you don't like strange dogs.
The dog owners here have found that a difficult reason to take on board and have tried constructively to say please be careful dog ownership involves other dogs.

MissMoneypenny

Daz1 wrote: »

From the pet perspective, if you have to move to another rented accom, you may not be able to take it with you. Would this be fair on the pet?

Lots of LLs allow pets, especially those that have an empty property.

MissMoneypenny

Jomo wrote: »

I thought that the best piece of advice you got on here was to help out at an animal centre of some kind.

I would never get a dog from a rescue centre. I wouldn't want a problem that someone else has created.