Would you advise your kids to emigrate?

andygb

baileysbattlebus wrote: »

The thread is about advising your kids to emigrate - not yourself.

Sorry - you can think what you like, but Indian programmers are not the best in the world by a long chalk - but they are the cheapest. And often you get what you pay for. Some are good - but a lot aren't.

The very good ones are hired by the big boys anyway and get the paid the same money as any other good programmer.

BTW, I would advise my kids to emigrate if they wanted to - they are still young and have a lot their working lives in front of them. If they think they can make better lives for themselves and their children - go for it. If it was somewhere nice and warm - OH and I could go as hangers on.

These are all very good points, particularly the one about cheaper foreign labour. What will happen if we keep outsourcing services to ever cheaper markets? Where will the job opportunities be for our children? Do we have an adequate manufacturing base for our workforce?
If we keep allowing endless swarms of immigrants into the country (most of whom do not contribute to the wealth of the country), and we cut back on essential public services - education, health, police, fire and armed forces, then we will simply become like the other countries in Eastern Europe, who are quite frankly "basket cases". Has anyone out there been to rural Albania, Poland, Romania, Turkey, Croatia, Bulgaria, or many others, because once you get away from the tourist centres and lovely beaches, the people live in pretty squalid conditions.
If I had children, then I certainly would not stand in their way if they wanted to "jump ship". Why try to hold someone back, if they are well educated, speak another language, and have a positive idea of what they want to achieve.

Davesnave

Really2 wrote: »

You sum up my view on parenting, but I have to admit to the board I do tell my child what to do. Especially on teeth cleaning and jumping on the sofa (but I hope that will pass when he is over 5:))

Oh, I'm all for that sort of telling!

It's the insidious 'make Mum & Dad happy' stuff that I can't abide, which turns into strong expectations about higher education & 'suitable' careers later on.

Square pegs & round holes = eventual unhappiness.

Really2

Davesnave wrote: »

Oh, I'm all for that sort of telling!

It's the insidious 'make Mum & Dad happy' stuff that I can't abide, which turns into strong expectations about higher education & 'suitable' careers later on.

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Failure offsetting and pushy parent disorder

Same here you keep them safe, loved and grounded. I could never push my asparations on to my child, I think it is cruel when you see those kids on things like Britain's got talent (my wife watches it:)) !!!!!! they should be playing not on a stage being carved in to a "wanabe"

lostinrates

Davesnave wrote: »

Oh, I'm all for that sort of telling!

It's the insidious 'make Mum & Dad happy' stuff that I can't abide, which turns into strong expectations about higher education & 'suitable' careers later on.

Square pegs & round holes = eventual unhappiness.

Or serious rebellion in career/uni choice :cool:

I think I'm an odd shaped peg, neither round nor square.Possibly elliptical Thing is, I feel that standardised education risks doing the same thing to many children: pegs and holes.

Mr_Matey

Doing a stint in the UK has been one of the best things I've done. Not sure how long I'll stay, but it's been great for work and travel, as well as being a good eye-opener on the rest of the world.

If your kids have the opportunity to work overseas while they're young I reckon they should go for it. If the job prospects are better overseas then all the more reason to.

Living overseas you get a much better appreciation of what you have back home, and out of the people I know who've worked overseas most moved home and those that stayed stayed for lurrve.

Personally, I could see myself living long-term in the UK, but the lure of family, friends and good weather will probably win out. Time will tell...

Generali

Mr_Matey wrote: »

Doing a stint in the UK has been one of the best things I've done. Not sure how long I'll stay, but it's been great for work and travel, as well as being a good eye-opener on the rest of the world.

If your kids have the opportunity to work overseas while they're young I reckon they should go for it. If the job prospects are better overseas then all the more reason to.

Living overseas you get a much better appreciation of what you have back home, and the people I know who've worked overseas either move home eventually, or stay (mainly due to marrying a local).

Personally, I could see myself living long-term in the UK, but the lure of family, friends and good weather will probably win out. Time will tell...

I lived and worked in France a couple of times as a youngster. I'd love to do the same in Singapore and perhaps Hong Kong. Maybe even Canberra - not sure I could bring myself to do that last one to the Generalissimos though.

Really2

Mr_Matey wrote: »

Personally, I could see myself living long-term in the UK, but the lure of family, friends and good weather will probably win out. Time will tell...

What you don't like this record heat wave,:D

Is it me or have the last two forcast "record summers" been let's say a bit damp

Mr_Matey

Generali wrote: »

I lived and worked in France a couple of times as a youngster. I'd love to do the same in Singapore and perhaps Hong Kong. Maybe even Canberra - not sure I could bring myself to do that last one to the Generalissimos though.

I'm also thinking maybe I should do a stint somewhere in Asia. Do the work/travel thing all over again. HK, Singapore, Tokyo, Bangkok or Shanghai would all be cool. Depends on work opportunities.

Canberra - don't do it!
:rotfl:

Really2 wrote: »

What you don't like this record heat wave,:D

Is it me or have the last two forcast "record summers" been let's say a bit damp

Overheard someone in our office say to an overseas colleague "we have a heatwave at the moment, which means over 18 degrees and not raining". :rotfl:

I've enjoyed the 2 British summers I've experienced. I came with expectations of every day being cold and grey so was plesantly surprised!

Really2

Mr_Matey wrote: »

I've enjoyed the 2 British summers I've experienced. I came with expectations of every day being cold and grey so was plesantly surprised!

Yes the reality is Wet, cold and grey.

For the record i cant remember two wetter Augusts than the last two summers.

No wonder we are all whingers we get told record hot summer and we get this:)

Mr_Matey

Really2 wrote: »

Yes the reality is Wet, cold and grey.

For the record i cant remember two wetter Augusts than the last two summers.

No wonder we are all whingers we get told record hot summer and we get this:)

Exactly I expected it to be cold wet and grey, so any sunny day was a bonus. If you think record hot summer you get disappointed.

Much like this story, which I quite liked.

nearlynew wrote: »

This nice short story sums this up rather well........

http://www.adventure-learning-initiatives.com/socrates.html

The British Media is so over the top. Don't believe a word they say. The way the news is presented over here annoys my fiancee so much that we almost never watch it.