Would you advise your kids to emigrate?

purch

It always amazes me on these threads, that people actually think that another country would want to allow the kind of 'losers' who want to bale on the U.K. to emigrate to their country !!!!

Immigration Officer: Hello welcome to ..........land.

Loser: Hello, I want to come and live in your country

Immigration Officer: Ok, what do you have to offer us ?

Loser: Well, I moan a lot, and I think the U.K. is a dump

Immigration Officer: No thanks, go home and wallow in your own misery

nearlynew

purch wrote: »

It always amazes me on these threads, that people actually think that another country would want to allow the kind of 'losers' who want to bale on the U.K. to emigrate to their country !!!!

Immigration Officer: Hello welcome to ..........land.

Loser: Hello, I want to come and live in your country

Immigration Officer: Ok, what do you have to offer us ?

Loser: Well, I moan a lot, and I think the U.K. is a dump

Immigration Officer: No thanks, go home and wallow in your own misery

This nice short story sums this up rather well........

http://www.adventure-learning-initiatives.com/socrates.html

ruggedtoast

wigglebeena wrote: »

But if you have a major accident or chronic illness in the U.S. it can surely be much, much more. People go bankrupt from it.

Medical technology in the US is excellent if you can afford it. Medical care is very patchy. I have had expat American friends who were scared of going back to the States because they knew they would have no chance of health cover.

A friend of the family went to the States on holiday in the 80s a very wealthy woman with inadequate travel insurance. She got pnuemonia and came back several months later better, but moderately poor.

amcluesent

England is kaput, washed-up, fini, basket-case, down the pan, it's all over bar the rioting.

Let's look at just demographics. The boomer generation is now needing highly expensive elder care, but the ratio of workers to retirees is going haywire. Anyone silly enough to stay and work in Britain will be taxed senseless to feed and water the old duffers.

Then edukation. We've skooled two generations of imbeciles. In a global services market, England will be supplying the bog cleaners.

Then politics. Clown is about to sign over control of Financial Services to the EU, you can be sure that the usual Paris/Berlin axis will set out to wreck us, as they did with fishing, farming etc.

We're flat broke. Paupers. The crushing yoke of debt will make for grim, grinding years of austerity in England for decades.

Fuel security. Clown spent a decade dithering about powering England while North Sea oil ran out. We'll be having powercuts soon enough and having to beg for gas from the Russians.

Social unrest. England is a house divided against itself with thousands of islamiscists watching, plotting, ready to strike, desperate to rejoice in killing. Shariah law is coming!

England is finished. If you can, get out now.

Thrugelmir

amcluesent wrote: »

England is kaput, washed-up, fini, basket-case, down the pan, it's all over bar the rioting.

Let's look at just demographics. The boomer generation is now needing highly expensive elder care, but the ratio of workers to retirees is going haywire. Anyone silly enough to stay and work in Britain will be taxed senseless to feed and water the old duffers.

Then edukation. We've skooled two generations of imbeciles. In a global services market, England will be supplying the bog cleaners.

Then politics. Clown is about to sign over control of Financial Services to the EU, you can be sure that the usual Paris/Berlin axis will set out to wreck us, as they did with fishing, farming etc.

We're flat broke. Paupers. The crushing yoke of debt will make for grim, grinding years of austerity in England for decades.

Fuel security. Clown spent a decade dithering about powering England while North Sea oil ran out. We'll be having powercuts soon enough and having to beg for gas from the Russians.

Social unrest. England is a house divided against itself with thousands of islamiscists watching, plotting, ready to strike. Shariah law is coming!

England is finished. If you can, get out now.

Your one way air ticket is awaiting you at Stanstead Airport. Courtesy of RuinAir.

Just name your destination.

We are the residents of the Uk so control its future. One thing we are good at as a nation is solving our problems whatever they are.

fc123

amcluesent wrote: »

England is kaput, washed-up, fini, basket-case, down the pan, it's all over bar the rioting......................etc etc etc......................................Social unrest. England is a house divided against itself with thousands of islamiscists watching, plotting, ready to strike, desperate to rejoice in killing. Shariah law is coming!

England is finished. If you can, get out now.

Why are you sooooo negative AmC?

I didn't watch it myself, but, apparently on Dragons Den a 23 yr old invented a cable/magnet thingy to poke through cavity walls.
Smart idea, real potential.

I would love to know where you live (you sometimes refer to your estate in London) as it is just one estate in one area of London.
UK is a big place...perhaps a tour aqround to check it out may change your viewpoint?

GBD222; If they are young, why not give it a go?
Means you may have to travel to visit etc. but that could be seen as a positive thing in itself.

OH has baby sis in NZ. Guts his mother as she cannot to afford to visit much but she has made a great life for her and her family out there.

nickj_2

i think the problem in thois country is that you have to live to work rather than work to live , once you'reon the treadmill it's impossible to get off , the cost of living and tax make it impossible to live comfortably unless you're earning a decent wage - just being an average wage earner doesn't count for much now , i think i will try and encourage my daughters to look elsewhere for just a better standard of life , where you don't have to flog yourself just to keep your head above water

mr.broderick

GDB2222 wrote: »

I think I'm a bit depressed at the moment, but consider:-

1. Name 5 things this country makes or does that is top-notch world-class (apart from paying benefits).

2. The imbalance in the economy is startling. It goes like this:
a) Thrifty chinese worker makes goods and saves wages
b) Those wages are loaned by Chinese banks to people in this country
c) People buy the chinese goods, paid for from the loaned wages of the chinese workers
d) The economists regard the sale of those goods as adding to the GDP of the UK.

This is all just zany. How can the sale of chinese-made goods, paid for by Chinese loans, be regarded as adding to the GDP of the UK? How can an upturn in retail (with a high proportion of imported goods) really mean that the economy is pulling out of recession?

I was depressed a few weeks ago when i found out Ronaldo was leaving us. I am better now and I didn't leave.

lostinrates

nickj wrote: »

i think the problem in thois country is that you have to live to work rather than work to live , once you'reon the treadmill it's impossible to get off , the cost of living and tax make it impossible to live comfortably unless you're earning a decent wage - just being an average wage earner doesn't count for much now , i think i will try and encourage my daughters to look elsewhere for just a better standard of life , where you don't have to flog yourself just to keep your head above water

Hmm, isnt that how its always been, pretty uch everywhere? there are a few professions where work life balance is good but provides more than just comfortable standard of living, but they are the minority, universally.

Really2

nickj wrote: »

i think the problem in thois country is that you have to live to work rather than work to live , once you'reon the treadmill it's impossible to get off , the cost of living and tax make it impossible to live comfortably unless you're earning a decent wage - just being an average wage earner doesn't count for much now , i think i will try and encourage my daughters to look elsewhere for just a better standard of life , where you don't have to flog yourself just to keep your head above water

And the better shape economys are China and other emerging economies.

I think we have it easy compared to their average workers.

Problem is with this country is people think/belive they have it worse than anyware else. The truth is we have it easier than any time in history. Compare working ours now to 30/40/50 years ago and the stanadard of living.

Daily mail as a lot to answer for.