Alcohol self help thread II

jayne.doe

Al_Mac wrote:

Master Mac is at rehearsals all day, Mrs Mac still in bed and Miss Mac still in bed.

Papers & plastic recyled, DVD returned only ironing to do. I think I'll stay here

The one thing I wish I could get a grip on, is being with other people, crowds etc. OK on my terms, just in situations not of my making. I've spent to long trying to be what everyone wanted or expected me to be. I'm finding it hard to change, without upsetting people

Al i have spent my whole life being what other people wanted, the drink just helped me to accomplish this. We talk of problems, they havent gone since i have become less of a drinker. (still not given up totally)In fact i think they are worse. The one thing i want to say to all is `stuff you,`if you dont like me, but i cant. When i drank i did this, when i get cross i do this, but i cant live like that all the time. So me is just not wanting to be with a load of people i dont know, crowds i dont want to be part of. If i upset people then i am truly sorry but learning to be me is learning to be what i am warts and all.:(

lewt

Al_Mac wrote:

Lewt, I have no problem with you, sometimes, do you not think, you can be a little sensitive:rolleyes: I know I am at times:eek:

yeah your right al, i am, thanks for pointing that out i need it sometimes.;)

beer2006

jayne.doe wrote:

learning to be me is learning to be what i am warts and all.:(

eugh, where are the warts?

Morning campers, lovely day here, got no work today and we're off to pick up some "stuff" for me. :rotfl:

Do alcoholics drift into it because of other problems. Let me rephrase that, can people that don't have other problems become alcoholics?
ie if you have a totally normal guy or gal whatever, who has no metal problems, no agrophobia (?) nothing, can they become a alcoholic? Can they become a drug addict?

suffolkb

Just my theory,but I don`t think that anyone can `become` an alcoholic. I believe that you are born that way. I also think that we are just the same as other addicts - we chose alcohol to try to hide our feelings and they chose something else.
Have any of you tried the autism test to be found in the Arms threads?. I come out with a very high score of 35. Anybody beat that?.

feelinggood_2

I scored 35 too I have a lot of Aspie traits, but that could just be social phobia instead?

I don't know if I'd have become a drinker had I not been abused as a kid - that was the start of all my negative feelings about myself, and it was those feelings that I drank to kill.

beer2006

I got 27 in it, anyone who collects trains or something and goes in a room by himself to look at train numbers is seriously in trouble according to this test.

And I disagree, I don't think you were born an alcoholic, I became one because I didn't notice it happening, if someone had pointed it out in the right way, I might have had time to stop it.

And obviously I meant mental, not metal (above) duh I've got a metal problem, too much of it damaged my ears I should think.
Pardon?

feelinggood_2

I don't think I'd drink if I lived on an island and had absolutely no contact with other people at all.

lewt

im with suf b on this one, once i learnt about alcohol as an illnes i know i was born with it. it's having no stop button to anything. and i certainly had the spirtual malady. as far back as i can remember. (restless irrtible and discontent). i may have been able to stop the phsiycal addiction when the doctor told me afew years ago. but the mental part, the thing that made me think "this time it will be different" is not something that devoleped. i dont see how it can.

I too, used to saay i drank because of things that happened in my childhood but that just isnt' ture cause others that have the same thing happen dont hit it as hard as i did. i used to sit crying on a barstood with all the excuse's in the world as to why i drank and why i felt like i did. but really i felt bad cause i knew i was lieing to myself, about the real reason i drank. which was i was an alcoholic and deep down i knew i could'nt stop.

Beer i think most of the problem's alcoholic and addict's have are down to the spirtual; malady, feeling less than, but better at the same time. i've suffered most of what you speak in the past. went to doctor's and they'll give a name to it. like socail phobia. it's the alcoholism mental part i know that to be ture with me. cause today all that's gone. it's waiting for me to stop doing what i do on a daily basis though....

Al_Mac

Where's this nutters test?

lewt

now, now, al, no 1 called rain man a nutter. did they?

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