Is immigration good for the UK economy.

ruggedtoast

It depends on the immigrants doesnt it. 200 rapists from some warzone with false papers probably arent giong to settle in as nicely as an equivalent number of doctors and nurses who are looking forward to working hard and building a nice life.

And it would be nice if there was some legislation managing who comes in and some sort of provision for sorting them out when they get here, but there isnt and there wont be until next year because Brown is utterly incapable of organising it.

This topics been done to death on here and it only ends up one way.

inspector_monkfish

yeah... we don't want these nasty foreign type threads coming onto our board and taking up all our posts.

i say send them back to the hell-hole where they came from....

wolvoman

With several million workshy layabouts claiming benefits, I think it's a bit rich to criticise several hundred thousand immigrants, most of whom come here to WORK.

There's one simple way to cut immigration, and that is to end ALL benefits bar the state pension. Then we'd find out that the jobs can actually be done by locals.

bluey890

Generali wrote: »

Economic benefits migrants bring to the UK:

Skills (many migrants are highly skilled)
Motivated (most migrants are motivated to 'get on their bike' to try to make something of themselves)
Reduces wage inflation (increases competitiveness of the moved to country)

Economic 'disbenefits' (horrible word) migrants bring:

Pressure on infrastructure
Reduce wage inflation (reduce wages of locals)
Pressure on benefits system (if migrants move to take advantage of more generous foreign welfare systems)

The final problem can be solved quite simply - when I migrated to Australia I had to agree not to have any recourse to public funds personally for 2 years (I get emergency medical treatment and that's it). The Generalissimos get educated by the state but that's only (I believe) because Mrs Generali is Australian.

IIRC, the Tories tried to introduce something similar only for the new Law to fall foul of existing legislation. Well that's pretty easily fixed - draft the laws better.

Personally, I'm in favour of immigration as my reading of the economic literature is that there is usually a net positive benefit to the receiving country.

If I thought my wages were likely to be reduced as a result of immigration, I might think differently. However, all the research I've read has shown overwhelming economic benefits to the receiving nation overall.

You moved to Australia; a country with plenty of natural resources and far stricter immigration policy.

bo_drinker

Another Polish food outlet opened here recently, they have painted their own sign not wanting to pay a local sign writer there by putting something back in to the local coffers. !!!!!!.

mbga9pgf

Bet the local sign writer would have cost 3X as much as them doing it themselves.

Sorry, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

Wookster

bluey890 wrote: »

It is generally better to be living in a country with lots of natural resources (e.g. Norway).
Than one with few natural resources and a larger population (e.g. many African countries).

What??

You must have your wires crossed. Most African countries are incredibly wealthy (in terms of natural resources).

Its African leadership that is so blatantly the problem. Look at Zimbabwe (my native country), it has the second largest platinum deposits, significant gold deposits, diamonds, not to mention the agricultural potential (until some of the world's best farmers got brutally kicked off their land).

bo_drinker

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Bet the local sign writer would have cost 3X as much as them doing it themselves.

Sorry, but thats the way the cookie crumbles.

It's not very professional though, but then again seeing as most of the customers wouldn't give a to55 I suppose they could trade out of a skip and still get away with it

Masomnia

bo_drinker wrote: »

Another Polish food outlet opened here recently, they have painted their own sign not wanting to pay a local sign writer there by putting something back in to the local coffers. !!!!!!.

So you've never done any DIY...?

bo_drinker

Masomnia wrote: »

So you've never done any DIY...?

I will have to try and post a pic of it and you will see what I mean??