Added postage to an item in a free P&P category on ebay?

pitkin2020

cyril82 wrote: »

What do you get out of reporting these listings? Ebay get more fees by forcing the seller to include the postage so i'm sure they appreciate your efforts, but what do you get out of it? i'm just curious as to why anyone would spend their time looking for these policy breaches and reporting them.

Do you just find it fun? or are you in competition with them?

It's always baffled me why people do that, unless there is some underlying motive it just smacks of telling tales out of school, seems a bit childish and pointless, (just my opinion)

sorry cyril but your a bit of a muppet TBH, at the end of the day the final auction price + the postage and packing charged is the price paid by the buyer to the seller basic ebay rules, the seller can not add additional charges to either avoid ebay fees or to make extra money because the seller stupidly started the bidding at 0.99p, therefore he knows as long as he gets one bid he will make £3.99.
I recently saw a surfboard for sale that was collection in person only, but in the listing the seller stated to collect there is an administration fee of £169, thats the same as going to tesco and doing the weekly shop then when you try to leave they say it will cost £100 to be allowed to leave.

The only scammer is this scenario is the seller trying to obtain extra cash by using small print at the end of the description, note the word description there, an area where the item is described, not an area where additional fees are charged...............................

cyril82

mikey72 wrote: »

Bit like when the seller puts they are not responsible if it goes missing in the post as well then.

nope, totally different as distance selling regulations state that the seller is liable to refund you if he fails to deliver, therefore it's his problem not yours and that term can not be legally binding as it contradicts the law.

Stating they will charge you for delivery is not against the law so they can do it.

As i explained before, your contract (as a buyer) is with the seller not ebay so you agree to the sellers terms and they can contradict ebay terms but can not contradict the law, the seller equally has a contract with ebay, if the seller breaks that contract with ebay he asking for trouble, but is it morally right to exploit that situation for personal financial gain?
i don't think so.

why not choose to buy elsewhere? is it because the other sellers will expect you to pay to have your item delivered (because it's in the sale price)?

mikey72

cyril82 wrote: »

Sellers terms mean a whole lot, they form the legal contract of sale between you and the business you buy from.

sure you can often use the ebay system to get out of the contract of sale you agreed to and most sellers will let it go for small amounts, go buy something from a business on ebay for a couple of grand, use the ebay/paypal system to screw him and watch how quick he drags your !!! to court and stand and stare in amazement as the judge totally disregards ebay policy and concentrates on what the law say's.

Buyers don't have a contract with ebay, they only have a contract with the seller they buy from,

Only a complete retard fails to understand this,

No, sellers terms mean nothing.
If you accept my purchase order, for the stated price, when you accept my paypal payment, it's clear enough. If you want to refund my money fair enough, but I'm paying what my contract asks, not an different amount.
As I said, I shop on ebay, I don't need to read all the descriptions. I pay with paypal, you don't need to read all ebay terms for buyers, and the same with paypal. But when you accept my money, they still apply.
You can spend all day argueing over whose terms, buyer or seller, should be used, but unless it's agreed by both parties before it won't mean much.

cyril82

mikey72 wrote: »

No, sellers terms mean nothing.
.

Really?, well ok then i believe you in fact i kinda see your point, how stupid are sellers to think they have any right to stipulate terms of sale.

so......should i email Argos and point out that this 2,000 word page of terms and conditions means nothing or do you want to do it?

http://members.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=argos-clearancebargains#Returns

:rotfl::rotfl:

mikey72

cyril82 wrote: »

Really?, well ok then i believe you in fact i kinda see your point, how stupid are sellers to think they have any right to stipulate terms of sale.

so......should i email Argos and point out that this 2,000 word page of terms and conditions means nothing or do you want to do it?

http://members.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=argos-clearancebargains#Returns

:rotfl::rotfl:

Can't be bothered reading them to be honest. I'll pay with paypal, and if it's not delivered, or not as described, I'll claim back exactly as paypal let me. See what happens then.

cyril82

mikey72 wrote: »

Can't be bothered reading them to be honest. I'll pay with paypal, and if it's not delivered, or not as described, I'll claim back exactly as paypal let me. See what happens then.

i'm sure they'd refund you themselves if your item didn't arrive.

your attitude is a typical case in point of how ebay's heavily biased dispute process has created a lazy and ignorant attitude amongst buyers, as you have stated yourself above, buyers now think they don't have to read listings because they can just claim their money back whatever the reason even if that reason is because i'm too damn lazy to read the listing.

mikey72

Good tip for Argos though, I've just found something I want dirt cheap, and as you say they are professional sellers.

cyril82

mikey72 wrote: »

Good tip for Argos though, I've just found something I want dirt cheap, and as you say they are professional sellers.

Glad you got yourself a bargain.

eripmav

One thing I'd like to point out though is that now Ebay force sellers, be they ebay shops, power merchants or any casual Joe seller into giving free postage on CDs, DVDs and games. I can understand if it's someone selling shed loads of items, but it makes me feel sorry for the casual seller.

cyberbob

eripmav wrote: »

One thing I'd like to point out though is that now Ebay force sellers, be they ebay shops, power merchants or any casual Joe seller into giving free postage on CDs, DVDs and games. I can understand if it's someone selling shed loads of items, but it makes me feel sorry for the casual seller.

But its not FREE Postage its INCLUSIVE postage. Add it to tha start price. I'm just amazed that people find this very simple concept so difficult. to grasp!