Orlando/Disneyworld Thread (Part 3)

charleion

Thank you for your replies :-)

Is anyone taking their children out for 2 weeks??

tori.k

We are as far as i am concerned missing 2 weeks of school does no harm, i have 2 older kids that all had term time holidays one is now studying Law and the other photography and media so i don't fear the youngest will turn to life of unemployment or crime for the lack of 2 weeks education, with both of us working we fit holiday's in when/where unfortunately it's rarity within the school holidays.
It doesn't go unoticed that the MP's recess is conveniently during times the kids are off, i wonder if there would be as much fuss over term time holidays if they only had 28 days leave like us common folk. Education takes many forms broaden the kids horizon with travel is education in itself

Idiophreak

tori.k wrote: »

We are as far as i am concerned missing 2 weeks of school does no harm, i have 2 older kids that all had term time holidays one is now studying Law and the other photography and media so i don't fear the youngest will turn to life of unemployment or crime for the lack of 2 weeks education

Did you speak to the teachers about the amount of extra effort they had to put in trying to get your kids caught up? Did you ask them the amount of disruption it causes in class to have kids coming and going week in week out? Sadly, it's not all just about *your* kids and how it effects *you*.

meer53

Idiophreak wrote: »

Did you speak to the teachers about the amount of extra effort they had to put in trying to get your kids caught up? Did you ask them the amount of disruption it causes in class to have kids coming and going week in week out? Sadly, it's not all just about *your* kids and how it effects *you*.

I took my daughter out of school for 3 weeks to go to Florida a couple of years ago. I didn't discuss it with anyone, i just let them know in plenty of time that we were going. It was unauthorised, obviously.

tori.k

Idiophreak wrote: »

Did you speak to the teachers about the amount of extra effort they had to put in trying to get your kids caught up? Did you ask them the amount of disruption it causes in class to have kids coming and going week in week out? Sadly, it's not all just about *your* kids and how it effects *you*.

Kids are off day in and day out for one reason or another, same with teacher's the disruption is minimal in the great scheme of things, kids learn at different rates, the modern modular way of teaching leaves some kids behind anyway,they have a few weeks to understand something then its on to the next topic, but then that a different thread, i stand by my choices with my decision with my kids education, I want them and us to experience life not just read about it, by the end of the year my space mad youngest son will of had the experience to meet and train with an astronaut, something few British people will get the chance to do, in our household is is about *our kids*

Life happen's even teacher's take time off during term-time to deal with personal problems yet i've never heard/read anyone complaining about the lack of continuity in there childs education, taking a child out for a holiday cause's no more issue's then a child being at home with something like chicken pox, as i stated on another thread why should holidays be for the select few, school holidays need to be redistributed to follow modern working pattern's but then i dare say that most teacher's wouldn't be overjoyed to have there yearly holiday's split into 2 week segments

vivatifosi

Re the school hols. If you are booking some time ahead be careful. There are plans to stop parents taking their kids out of school to go on holiday:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/9091213/Term-time-holidays-will-be-banned.html

charleion

Thanks for your replies/views

I fully respect all your views but I must agree that having 2 weeks off from school in my eyes isn't such a major issue as long as the holiday is constructive and not lounging round the pool for the whole 2 weeks. For me a holiday is to spend quality time with my family away from the stresses and routine of 'normal' family life and to throughly enjoy each others company.

I appreciate the remarks regarding the distruption as my 2 girls are very different in their approach to education and seperation from the family unit. My eldest is very advanced for her age and loves school so much that she will participate in any extra curriculum activities whereas the youngest, well she is another story. She has been in childcare since a baby but it still took her over 18mths to settle into school as she dislikes being away from the family unit but I feel that she needs to experience disruptions in her routine to help her deal with such things in her adult life as life is full of ups and downs and the sooner we realise this the more we can deal with it.

Idiophreak

tori.k wrote: »

Kids are off day in and day out for one reason or another, same with teacher's the disruption is minimal in the great scheme of things, kids learn at different rates, the modern modular way of teaching leaves some kids behind anyway,they have a few weeks to understand something then its on to the next topic

Not all schools teach like that. Good schools will be giving students work and goals based on their ability, thus ensuring continual learning.

tori.k wrote: »

Life happen's even teacher's take time off during term-time to deal with personal problems yet i've never heard/read anyone complaining about the lack of continuity in there childs education, taking a child out for a holiday cause's no more issue's then a child being at home with something like chicken pox, as i stated on another thread why should holidays be for the select few, school holidays need to be redistributed to follow modern working pattern's but then i dare say that most teacher's wouldn't be overjoyed to have there yearly holiday's split into 2 week segments

Teachers do, on occasion, take time out for "personal problems". But we're not talking about "personal problems", we're talking about "holidays". It's an *extremely* rare occurrence that a teacher is permitted leave in term time to go on holiday.

You don't need to look further than this forum to find *plent* of people complaining about the lack of continuity caused by changing teachers, teachers taking too much PPA, too much reliant on subs etc etc.

Chicken pox is an illness, it's hardly the same thing. Of course schools don't object to children being out of school for illness.

Holidays are, indeed, a valuable learning tool and should be something that everyone can experience...but this is exactly what the school holidays are for. Yes, it's more expensive...so either save more money or adjust your expectations.

I think you'd find mixed reactions from teachers on changing the holiday times. Believe it or not, teachers aren't thrilled at having to pay peak prices every time they want to go on holiday either - so anything that could be done to reduce holiday prices would be welcome.

tori.k

Idiophreak wrote: »

Not all schools teach like that. Good schools will be giving students work and goals based on their ability, thus ensuring continual learning.



Teachers do, on occasion, take time out for "personal problems". But we're not talking about "personal problems", we're talking about "holidays". It's an *extremely* rare occurrence that a teacher is permitted leave in term time to go on holiday.

You don't need to look further than this forum to find *plent* of people complaining about the lack of continuity caused by changing teachers, teachers taking too much PPA, too much reliant on subs etc etc.

Chicken pox is an illness, it's hardly the same thing. Of course schools don't object to children being out of school for illness.

Holidays are, indeed, a valuable learning tool and should be something that everyone can experience...but this is exactly what the school holidays are for. Yes, it's more expensive...so either save more money or adjust your expectations.

I think you'd find mixed reactions from teachers on changing the holiday times. Believe it or not, teachers aren't thrilled at having to pay peak prices every time they want to go on holiday either - so anything that could be done to reduce holiday prices would be welcome.

Most kids are in state school's not steiner schools so are taught in a modular form.

I apologize i have never come across a thread about continuity in education so stand corrected.

They issue is for those of us that work in industries that have restrictive leave during school holidays, and there is a lot of us out there, with removal of the school's discretion to grant holidays is very much prejudiced against those worker's. removal of school discretion is more hassle to the school then the parent at the end of the day, the school have never had any issue's over us taking the children out of school i believe its marked as "educated elsewhere" for the duration of our trip's. I would have thought that the teaching profession would be the first to take a stand over goverment's dictating on a rather petty issue, i hardly promotes a good parent/teacher relationship

Regardless this a subject for DT not this thread we will just have to agree to disagree on this one

tylerlewis

I can completely understand everyone's point raised here but while the government refuse to do anything about the cost of holidays in the school holidays, then people taking their kids out of school will continue to happen. Surely this is what needs to be banned.
Plus not everyone can work their holidays around the school hols.

We're going with my parents this year and trying to find a time where we can all have the same time off has been a nightmare.

I personally feel that family holidays do alot for kids and my family and helps my son appriciate one of the reasons why I work so hard.