Failed ESA Medical!!

cit_k

Im also confused, as all your posts that I have seen so far are about ESA (Employment and support allowance) and I cant find a single post on the forum about the space agency from yourself?

NASA_2

cit_k wrote: »

Im confused as your username is ESA (fair enough you asked for a change now) and you stated you *joined* ESA due to stories about people on the sick etc.

Which ESA did you join due to people on the sick? Was it ESA (Employment and Support Allowance) or ESA (European Space Agency)?

If your still confused then I cannot enlighten you any further.

cit_k wrote: »

Im also confused, as all your posts that I have seen so far are about ESA (Employment and support allowance) and I cant find a single post on the forum about the space agency from yourself?

Why would I post about the European Space Agency on a benefits board?:rotfl:

cit_k

So, you have a deep interest in the european space agency, chose that as your username, and yet you have not posted ANYTHING about the european space agency until this sudden attempt to distance your posts from being related to ESA (employment and support allowance) officially?

The evidence on the forum points indicates you post about employment and support allowance, and have no interest in the european space agency, as you have to my knowledge not mentioned it until today.

I could be wrong, please feel free to point me to your previous discussions about the space agency....

Why would you post on a benefit board? Why would you use ESA as a username for the space agency, on a benefit board when a benefit is called ESA and you work for the benefits people? At best its *highly* misleading...

NASA_2

cit_k wrote: »

So, you have a deep interest in the european space agency, chose that as your username, and yet you have not posted ANYTHING about the european space agency until this sudden attempt to distance your posts from being related to ESA (employment and support allowance) officially?

The evidence on the forum points indicates you post about employment and support allowance, and have no interest in the european space agency, as you have to my knowledge not mentioned it until today.

I could be wrong, please feel free to point me to your previous discussions about the space agency....

I repeat, why would I post about the European Space Agency on a benefits board? Unless asked about my username, which arose for the first time today, there was no reason to talk about it.

If someone asks about missing a signing-on appointment I dont see what relevance Space Exploration has to that. Perhaps you can enlighten me?:rolleyes:

I post about JSA - My username isnt JSA.

I post about IS - My username isnt IS.

As some people are unable to work out that I am an individual and not an organisation I have asked for my username to be changed. That's my concession.

cit_k

fair enough about the user name change, but your still conveniently forgetting to answer the question of why you stated quite clearly you JOINED ESA due to stories about people on the sick.. I repeat what ESA where you referring to, and what does the space agency have to do with sick benefits?

Stating you joined ESA due to people on the sick DOES NOT GIVE THE IMPRESSION YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE AGENCY ..

NASA_2

cit_k wrote: »

fair enough about the user name change, but your still conveniently forgetting to answer the question of why you stated quite clearly you JOINED ESA due to stories about people on the sick.. I repeat what ESA where you referring to, and what does the space agency have to do with sick benefits?

Stating you joined ESA due to people on the sick DOES NOT GIVE THE IMPRESSION YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SPACE AGENCY ..

Why do you suppose I would be talking about the space agency?

cit_k

Maybe cecause you just stated your user name has nothing to do with the ESA benefits, but the SPACE AGENCY when asked about the relationship between your posts and your work....

(even though its never been to my knowledge mentioned or clarified before, and your posts indicated working for the benefits people, so with a username like ESA people are bound to think your working for ESA and your posts could represent official policy in some way)

How did you not think that ESA as a username would be construed as anything other than employment and support allowance in a benefits forum, when the posts are about employment and support allowance? In what way could anyone not think that could lead to a significant risk of misleading people?

NASA_2

There are more forums to this place than the Benefits and Tax Credits forum. I made my initial posts, if I remember correctly, in the Bank Accounts section because someone close to me had money stolen from their account and needed advice on how to get it back.

I didnt believe that my passion for space exploration would cause problems when seeking out such advice.

Only after that did I reach this area of the board. I'm not a mind reader, how was I to know people would make such assumptions, especially when I have repeatedly stated that I am here in a personal capacity.

It hopefully wont be a problem much longer as I have requested a name change so the easily confused wont have this problem.

MamTor13

By the way, under any job you can face disciplinary action if you bring your office into disrepute, it has no bearing if it's an opinion or in personal time. You only have to see the recent case of Mark France the DWP worker called up disciplinary hearing over a campaign he did in his own time that didn't even have a bearing on his benefits work it was about MPs expenses. I believe the DWP have dropped it now, but that's only because of media attention. The DWP used 'employees should not comment on matters of controversy which fall within ministers’ responsibility' The new changes to sickness benefits are much more likely to cause difficulties as they have a direct link to a DWP employees job and there is as much political controversy about them at the moment. CAB, MIND, Rethink all calling on judicial review regarding some controversial aspects of the medicals. Ministers are having to address these issues in parliament. Whether ESA/NASA falls into having done this is the job of his department to decide, but to consider you have no restrictions on personal opinion, especially when it is directly related to the role of your government job is being optimistic to say the least.

cozza

I was the one that went to the tribunal as my medical atos doctor gave me 0 points so i apealed against the decision as thyey are not my doctors they dont know how i have been copying with depression and stress got medical reports my doctor wrote to the tribunal gave them medical evidance of my comndition when i went o the tribunal
There was 3 persons in the tribunal the lady who took down all wot was said the doctor , and the judge like person the whole thing took about 1hour of asking me details of my condition and how if effected me day to day so they had a good insite to my day to day living then asked me to wait out side for 15 min they called me back and over turned the previouce decision and awarded me 21 points
so it was a tough day for me but i managed it as i wanted to show them what life was like for the real me .
It was no easy thing to do .
It was a big deal for me when it was all over i did have a cry as it was a relif that to be reconised with real depression
some dont give up hope .
cozza