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Failed ESA Medical!!
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You are taking the pee "assessed wrongly" - from zero to twenty-one - like Nelson when he said, "I see no ships" - they don't want to see that the people are too ill.
Indeed, many of these people are too ill to fight in appeal - the DWP rely on this e.g. the stress and effort of this procedure almost killed me - weight wise, I went down to below 9 stone - at 6 feet tall.
There is a systemic problem - and I'm certain you know it - all these cases on the many threads here are the tip of the iceburg - but I suppose you'd like to pretend that everybody who has been marked wrongly posts on this forumThere are millions of people on benefit and relatively few of them post on here. If people dont have the courage to fight a wrong decision them that, frankly, is their problem and not anyone elses.
BTW, who is to say that the person that gave 21 was not the person that was wrong, perhaps the 0 was right?
I'm not arguing this particular case though as none of us know enough to comment authoratively on it.
It is not about having the 'courage' - it is about being well enough - but you know this.
The appeal is to *review* the evidence - so it is the 21 that is correct - therefore the initial so-called 'medical test' was a travesty - not simply an injustice - but a wrongdoing of fraud against the poor claimant - taking away their legal entitlement.
We *know* for a *fact* that all these cases we hear on this forum point to something being seriously wrong - I state again; that is a fact.0 -
the ATOS / Royal Mail medical
So that would pretty much satisfy many of the IB descriptors.....
But the second dwp/ATOS medical awarded ZERO points....
Not consistant really with the first report at all....
http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/dc/dcboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=111&topic_id=433&mesg_id=636
Slimming world start 28/01/2012 starting weight 21st 2.5lb current weight 17st 9-total loss 3st 7.5lb
Slimmer of the month February , March ,April
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the ATOS / Royal Mail medical
So that would pretty much satisfy many of the IB descriptors.....
But the second dwp/ATOS medical awarded ZERO points....
Not consistant really with the first report at all....
http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/dc/dcboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=111&topic_id=433&mesg_id=6360 -
Garry_Anderson wrote: »It is not about having the 'courage' - it is about being well enough - but you know this.
The appeal is to *review* the evidence - so it is the 21 that is correct - therefore the initial so-called 'medical test' was a travesty - not simply an injustice - but a wrongdoing of fraud against the poor claimant - taking away their legal entitlement.
We *know* for a *fact* that all these cases we hear on this forum point to something being seriously wrong - I state again; that is a fact.
Hmm, are tribunals incapable of getting things wrong?
If not then surely they can get it wrong in both directions.
We hear about a handful of cases where things go wrong - we also hear cases where things have gone swimmingly for the claimant involved. Those cases point to something being terribly right.0 -
I think the key is the support available to get into, and stay in, work. I don't see how farming it out to private companies is going to help this. They're not going to provide courses etc as it will eat into their profits. Someone who's done manual labour all their lives may physically be able to work in an office, but without computer skills etc they wont get a job. So they'll just be languishing on JSA instead.
My sister's just finished uni and is looking for a job, she's just signed on and is disgusted that there's no actualy help in getting a job, the first interview they just wanted to check her id to make sure she was really her, the second they just wanted to know she'd been applying for jobs. No courses on interview skills, or how to write a covering letter, nothing. If they're not even helping the people who want to work then how on earth are they going to help the more difficult cases?Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.0 -
tibunals can get things wrong too
allof these assements should be carried out by more than one Trained person and recorded so that both parties have proof of whats been said and the descison making shouls be more open than it is at present
Slimming world start 28/01/2012 starting weight 21st 2.5lb current weight 17st 9-total loss 3st 7.5lb
Slimmer of the month February , March ,April
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I think the key is the support available to get into, and stay in, work. I don't see how farming it out to private companies is going to help this. They're not going to provide courses etc as it will eat into their profits. Someone who's done manual labour all their lives may physically be able to work in an office, but without computer skills etc they wont get a job. So they'll just be languishing on JSA instead.
My sister's just finished uni and is looking for a job, she's just signed on and is disgusted that there's no actualy help in getting a job, the first interview they just wanted to check her id to make sure she was really her, the second they just wanted to know she'd been applying for jobs. No courses on interview skills, or how to write a covering letter, nothing. If they're not even helping the people who want to work then how on earth are they going to help the more difficult cases?
perhaps those who are on esa and fail medical should be put straight on new deal etc or something similar to enable them to get true support back to work
Slimming world start 28/01/2012 starting weight 21st 2.5lb current weight 17st 9-total loss 3st 7.5lb
Slimmer of the month February , March ,April
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just book my ESA Medical i have a mental illness now im worring like mad thinking im going to get turn down0
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I think the key is the support available to get into, and stay in, work. I don't see how farming it out to private companies is going to help this. They're not going to provide courses etc as it will eat into their profits. Someone who's done manual labour all their lives may physically be able to work in an office, but without computer skills etc they wont get a job. So they'll just be languishing on JSA instead.
My sister's just finished uni and is looking for a job, she's just signed on and is disgusted that there's no actualy help in getting a job, the first interview they just wanted to check her id to make sure she was really her, the second they just wanted to know she'd been applying for jobs. No courses on interview skills, or how to write a covering letter, nothing. If they're not even helping the people who want to work then how on earth are they going to help the more difficult cases?0
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