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Revoked Licence within 1 week ( PLEASE HELP!)
My situation is as follows
I had accumulated a total of 6 points on my provisional licence for fixed penalties whilst riding a motorcycle with L plates.
These were approximately June 2001 & October 2006
for failing to stop at zebra crossing (no one was on it, just waiting apparently)
and not seeing (ignoring according to the police) a no entry sign into a garage forecourt.
So in my opinion i had 3 points on my licence at the time I took my test, albeit for stupid reasons out of my control, i took the penalties.
I passed my Motorcycle test in October 2008.
I was planning to take my car test soon after so continued to ride on the provisional licence as i needed both parts present to take the car test.
I accumulated a further 3 points for SP30 (speeding 50 in a 40) on 04/05/09
I applied with a PACE letter but was issued with a fixed PCN anyway.
I informed the pentatly clerk that i was taking a driving test and could not submit my licence as i needed these for my test. This information was logged on their computer, but i was told not to worry i could submit my licence for endorsement after this.
I finally passed my Car test on 25th June 2009, and sent my licence off to be endorsed shortly afterwards.
I have now received a letter from the DVLA stating my licence is being revoked under the New Drivers Act 1995.
I am somewhat confused as my examiner & instructor had informed me that the new drivers act 1995 meant I could accumulate a total of 6 points after the date of passing my test(s), not including those already on my provisional licence.
I was fully aware that points accumulated would remain on my licence, but not included in the total number allowed during the probationary 2 year period.
Whilst I am not disputing the points received. I do not know where I stand, having only passed my car test last week, as this was after the date of the conviction, and had i know my licence was to be revoked i would simply have posponed my test and taken it when the new provisional was sent back.
Afterall it is perfectly legal to take a driving test acording to the DSA with upto 12 points on a provisional licence.
so i have 6 points on a provisional licence and have passed a test after all the points were endorsed. So why the Revoke??????????????
what i still dont understand is whether the DVLA start a new probrationary period with each category test pass and no one i have spoken with can tell me one way or another, just that there is a law regarding 6 points in 2 years and i am one of the unlucky folk who have had to experience this.
Where is the loop hole here, can anyone give me any words of advice
for the record, i passed both my tests Car & Bike with less than 3 minor faults and the theroy for both with 100%.and i'm 27 years old not 17.
Surely the dvla should take this into account, and WHY WHY WHY if my licence was to revoked was i able to book a test in the first place.
Thanks for reading, look forward to any advice.
I had accumulated a total of 6 points on my provisional licence for fixed penalties whilst riding a motorcycle with L plates.
These were approximately June 2001 & October 2006
for failing to stop at zebra crossing (no one was on it, just waiting apparently)
and not seeing (ignoring according to the police) a no entry sign into a garage forecourt.
So in my opinion i had 3 points on my licence at the time I took my test, albeit for stupid reasons out of my control, i took the penalties.
I passed my Motorcycle test in October 2008.
I was planning to take my car test soon after so continued to ride on the provisional licence as i needed both parts present to take the car test.
I accumulated a further 3 points for SP30 (speeding 50 in a 40) on 04/05/09
I applied with a PACE letter but was issued with a fixed PCN anyway.
I informed the pentatly clerk that i was taking a driving test and could not submit my licence as i needed these for my test. This information was logged on their computer, but i was told not to worry i could submit my licence for endorsement after this.
I finally passed my Car test on 25th June 2009, and sent my licence off to be endorsed shortly afterwards.
I have now received a letter from the DVLA stating my licence is being revoked under the New Drivers Act 1995.
I am somewhat confused as my examiner & instructor had informed me that the new drivers act 1995 meant I could accumulate a total of 6 points after the date of passing my test(s), not including those already on my provisional licence.
I was fully aware that points accumulated would remain on my licence, but not included in the total number allowed during the probationary 2 year period.
Whilst I am not disputing the points received. I do not know where I stand, having only passed my car test last week, as this was after the date of the conviction, and had i know my licence was to be revoked i would simply have posponed my test and taken it when the new provisional was sent back.
Afterall it is perfectly legal to take a driving test acording to the DSA with upto 12 points on a provisional licence.
so i have 6 points on a provisional licence and have passed a test after all the points were endorsed. So why the Revoke??????????????
what i still dont understand is whether the DVLA start a new probrationary period with each category test pass and no one i have spoken with can tell me one way or another, just that there is a law regarding 6 points in 2 years and i am one of the unlucky folk who have had to experience this.
Where is the loop hole here, can anyone give me any words of advice
for the record, i passed both my tests Car & Bike with less than 3 minor faults and the theroy for both with 100%.and i'm 27 years old not 17.
Surely the dvla should take this into account, and WHY WHY WHY if my licence was to revoked was i able to book a test in the first place.
Thanks for reading, look forward to any advice.
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cant advise on the bulk of your post other than i think you need to screw the nut!!
however i always believed the entry/exit signs on garage forecourts were advisory and not part of the highway code/lawand not seeing (ignoring according to the police) a no entry sign into a garage forecourt.0 -
it sounds like your a danger and that you really shouldnt be on a bike or in a car
i suggest you contatc the dvla and ask for the reasons as to why they have revoked your licence
but i think itse because you have now 9 points on your provisional licence and althought you padssed your test you still continued to use your provisional .. (which im sure would worry most people) for almost 9 months ..
and managed to accumulate a further 3 points for speeding ..
you say your 27 not 17 but it doesnt mean your a safer driver
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for the record, i passed both my tests Car & Bike with less than 3 minor faults and the theroy for both with 100%.and i'm 27 years old not 17.
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That only proves that you are capable of driving safely and legally, however it is evident that you choose to do otherwise when not being subject to test conditions.0 -
You should forget the idea of driving for the sake of the rest of us.
You sound an incompetent menace on the road with an arrogant attitude toward authority and safety.
In the unfortunate eventuality that you do get your licence back, you will lose it shortly afterwards for more convictions.
Do us all a favour and ride a pushbike.Beware of imitations e.g. Robert Sterling0 -
Whilst I agree with the other posters that being 27 and not 17 has no bearing on your driving safely on the roads, the fact you have managed to accumulate not 3, not 6 but 9 points over the past 8 years would worry me... I've been driving for 13 years nearly and managed to get 3 points a few years back for the first time for speeding on a motorway (which btw I don't actually think I should have had, but that's a different story...) You managed to get 9 points before passing... and as my instructor told me "passing doesn't mean you know how to drive, it means you have a license to learn and you will learn from now until you stop driving".
Contact the DVLA and ask them to verify exactly why your license was revoked - personally I think they ought to have revoked it, but obviously my views doesn't mean it's the right interpretation of the rulesDFW Nerd #025DFW no more! Officially debt free 2017 - now joining the MFW's!
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So in my opinion i had 3 points on my licence at the time I took my test, albeit for stupid reasons out of my control, i took the penalties.
Two things here. Your opinion counts for nothing you'll be sad to hear and it is totally in your control.
My best advice is to knock the chip off your shoulder, put it down to experience and move on, by foot preferablyIt's taken me years of experience to get this cynical0 -
cant advise on the bulk of your post other than i think you need to screw the nut!!
however i always believed the entry/exit signs on garage forecourts were advisory and not part of the highway code/law
I agree. Maybe he was done for inconsiderate driving, or due care, rather than ignoring a sign? I can't imagine a TRO was in place for a sign at a petrol station.
OP, it's not a matter for opinion, unfortunately. Get on to pepipoo, and someone will advise you of the correct position, and whether or not your licence has been correctly revoked.0 -
Wrong
Rule of thumb: If there is a seperate entry and exit then the highway code applies (one entry point but an in lane and an out lane would constitute the seperate entry/exit).
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Oh bless. The little speedy gonzales is stamping his feet and demanding a loophole. At what point does not paying enough attention to notice a pedestrian at a crossing and a no entry sign in a location where an accident could have explosive consequences and just not obeying the law regarding speed limits become 'beyond my control'?
I suppose being stupid could be seen as being out of your control, as that must be the only reason you continued to drive/ride like a t*** after your first batch of points. From your family's point of view, they have to be grateful that none of these have resulted in your death. Or someone else's.
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