Lost my JSA

wishface

Paparika wrote: »

salvation army give out food packs, there is no need to starve, but he's ok now he's got a bar job. at least until he gets paid he can eat the peanuts in the dishes on the bar :rotfl:

So it's ok for the Sallie army to give people food packs, funded by the public. But it's not ok for someone to claim JSA from the treasury funded by...

What a strange society we live in where people can't see that it's ok for people to profit from way, but woe betide a man who quits a job.

You find it all funny, but there are people living in society right now who can't afford to feed themselves properly (if at all). You out to change your attitude, grow some humility and be a little less judgemental.

wishface

Strider590 wrote: »

And the lesson is........ Stick up for yourself! you'd have been better off getting yourself fired.
Do not fear for your job, do not let bully's win!
I've been there and brought the t-shirt, workplace bully's are normally supervisors or middle management with delusions of grandeur. Picking on other more intelligent individuals is their way of hiding their own incompetence.

Im not sure what you can do now on the money front, perhaps you could arrange for someone to employ you short term and make you redundant?
You'd at least get your JSA again.

Alternatively you could get a girlfriend and have 7 kids, or apply for Polish citizenship and change religions to the second largest in the world.

Sorry for the sarcasm, I just get really wound up with the way this country treats it's own people and you are a living example of that poor treatment!!!!!

As an aside the reason people who have lots of kids get help is because the kids would otherwise suffer. It's very sad that the media plays on people's greed and envy, born of their own resentment at their circumstances, to contrive to paint such parents (and it's not just such people) as plunderers of the public purse. Far better to support their kids, educate society into wanting a better life, and making the world fairer.

onlyforboards_2

I still don't understand why you lost your job. If you were only contracted for 10 hours couldn't you have just worked those ten hours and looked for other work?

Strider590

wishface wrote: »

As an aside the reason people who have lots of kids get help is because the kids would otherwise suffer. It's very sad that the media plays on people's greed and envy, born of their own resentment at their circumstances, to contrive to paint such parents (and it's not just such people) as plunderers of the public purse. Far better to support their kids, educate society into wanting a better life, and making the world fairer.

It's not fair when intelligent working/middle class families can only have one maybe two children because both parents work, yet we have a non-working scutter class that has 7 kids, never work, never want to and bring the kids up to live by the same values. It's a dilution of the gene pool, and needs to be stopped.
In 20 years time we'll be over run with them! Media involvement or not, it is a huge drain on our economy

But alas, this is not the place for this discussion.

wishface

Strider590 wrote: »

It's not fair when intelligent working/middle class families can only have one maybe two children because both parents work, yet we have a non-working scutter class that has 7 kids, never work, never want to and bring the kids up to live by the same values. It's a dilution of the gene pool, and needs to be stopped.
In 20 years time we'll be over run with them! Media involvement or not, it is a huge drain on our economy

But alas, this is not the place for this discussion.

god bless stereotypes..

EDIT: what exactly isn't fair? Do you live in China then?

Paparika

wishface wrote: »

So it's ok for the Sallie army to give people food packs, funded by the public. But it's not ok for someone to claim JSA from the treasury funded by...

What a strange society we live in where people can't see that it's ok for people to profit from way, but woe betide a man who quits a job.

You find it all funny, but there are people living in society right now who can't afford to feed themselves properly (if at all). You out to change your attitude, grow some humility and be a little less judgemental.

Actually i am sat on my sofa disabled wishing dearly i can go back to work to feed my family, i'm on half pay that doesn't even cover my rent, i'm in dire straits but instead of moping about it, i've looked at ways to help me and my son even if i am not too mobile at the moment. i don't have the money to feed us till the end of next month when i get paid

Rules are rules, its the government that make these rules.

OP had a choice, he realises he made a bad one, you see this and blame everyone else for his problem, he caused it not us.

Your argument is that the govenment won't give him money, i have said that there is a solution, and yet you have a dig at me because of a possible solution to his dilema?

really if you are that bothered about him, you make him a food pack and send it to him. Whats wrong with the sally army giving out food packs, do you give them money, do you begrudge what they do? Its charity !!!!!!

Butterfliesarepretty

Naykon wrote: »

Hi everyone,

I've just been informed this morning that i've lost my JSA for "voluntarily" giving up my job.

I was working around 30 hours a week but was only on a 10 hour a week contract.

I'm a graduate desperately trying to relocate, I hated the job and small town in which i live.

My argument was that I could spend more time applying and hopefully get out sooner if I worked less hours (i.e more time dedicated to finding work elsewhere) but my employer could not meet these requirements (I regurlarly worked 25 -30 hours+.

The truth is though I felt the people i worked with were hostile and non welcoming towards me from the start, and a degree of bullying was present. But how could I have proved that? i kept no records and it's my word against theres.

Needless to say I went with the first argument hoping it would hold up.... but it didn't

How is it the government are so reluctant to give financial support to postgraduates but will quite happily give Wayne and Waynetta enough money to pay all their bills and go on holiday once a year? and pay for themselves to have 2nd homes and a new Duckhouse and all the other crap!

makes my blood boil...

I'm sure Winston Churchill would have something to say about it, if only he was alive today

I voluntarily left in april 08 with a redundancy package and I got jsa, I was honest and got it from may 08 till jan 09. I am now working but do not like my job as there is too much pettiness, and the management is bullying sometimes but I have to get a job before I leave to keep paying the bills. I won't give up though.

daz100

I do not understand the responses from people. You say he does not live in the real world?

Society tells people that university is the way forward, to get ahead then you complain when people come out of uni with this mindset.

If you hate something you generally do not do it. Now I understand that you need to work for money but is that at any cost? I mean if it was so bad what was that doing to his mental health? Then he could be signed of sick and we would have even more moans from people.

Yes he was a little short sighted but it is not like he had no intention of looking for work and the wording "job seekers allowance" does sound more like a supportive tool than anything else. I mean I would not trust them muppets to find me a job but that is what they are there for.

sexki11en

wishface wrote: »

so i ask again: what should happen now? What is to become of the OP? This person made a bad decision, let's agree for argument's sake (I odn't know the facts so it's impossible to accurate judge in anything other than a cheap way), so they are then stuffed for life? Is that how society treats people who make bad decisions. Obviously it isn't, as the likes of Tony Blair are making millions from some of the most appalling decisions in history. Yet someone quits a job and their life is screwed because they aren't entitled to support themselves (unless they are lucky enough to promptly receive hardship allowance, which is by no means guaranteed).

Please, answer the question. If you can.

I'm sorry, but JSA is not there for those who made bad decisions. The rules of JSA are clear and it was up to the OP to make sure he had another job before he left the one he had.

There are thousands of people loosing their jobs daily who although they may not have liked their job, had no choice about leaving. Thats who JSA is there to help. Christ, if JSA supported anyone who didn't like their job then there wouldnt BE jsa as no one would be working to contribute to it! It's quite logical when you think about it.

It's not for us to discuss what the OP should do now. It was for him to think about before he quit his job! WE are not responsible, nor should we be made responsible for him making a bad decision. It's one i'm sure he won't make again. As far as i'm concerned, any payments made to him so far before it was discovered he left his job, should be made to be paid back when he does get a job!

SK x

Emmzi

I don't think society does tell people uni is the way forward any more TBH. Society (or lets substitute "the media" ) is pretty honest asbout numbers of unemployed grads and has been for years.

There's lots of ways of getting an education. People choose their route and like all adults must then live with the consequences of making a choice with an uncertain future. You can only try your best.