Tesco - Parent/Child + disabled car spaces

poet123

biscit wrote: »

Sure, because it is not a need that rests solely in negative aspects of their characters, but in their personal circumstances.

Personal circumstances do sometimes dictate need, this is not one of them. It is perfectly possible to shop in a store with children and park at the back of the car park. Therefore, this is not a need, but a want, and should be treated accordingly, especially when weighed against usage of a disabled space by a person with a disability, and as such a genuine need.


Resenting certain people for getting "perks", or those that complain when other people not entitled to those "perks" claim them is unpleasant behaviour.

So, we are either agreed that it is a perk and as such they(parents) should not complain if others who may not be entitled (in their eyes)actually view it as such, and not the right the parents seem to believe it is?



If you don't have a problem with the existence of P&C spaces near the entrance of the store, then OK, I wasn't talking about you, apologies if my wording was unclear and confusing. If you have a problem with people parking in disabled spaces when P&C spaces are unavailable, then while your anger may be a bit OTT, you are in the right to be cross.

I dont have a problem with P&C spaces, they seem to need them wider, so put them at the back of the car park. I cant see the need to have them by the entrance, children and parents can and do walk, under supervision.

Many disabled people cannot.

I think it is actually a fudging of the issue re wider spaces, when the real issue is that they dont want to walk the extra 50 yards

If the store has asked people to park there, it is rude and unpleasant to direct anger at anyone but the store.

The issue is why has the store done this? they know it is unaceptable, soon will be illegal, so the obvious reason is that these people kicked up such a fuss that the store felt the need to placate them.

If a person has a problem with people who complain when people who are not disabled and don't have young people use P&C spaces, then that problem does not lie with the attitude of the people objecting to the abuse of P&C spaces.

I believe it does, my issue is with the apparent inability to understand that we may want something, but we dont actually need it.

poet123

DaisyClaire wrote: »

So based on the fact I have taken a different angle of the debate, based on the fact that I did something I was advised to do by Tesco and based on the fact I made a childish remark (which I am sure gave a few a giggle;)) which was in no way rude, did not contain any swear words [ sniggers] and was not aimed at hurting any individuals feelings...you have concluded, that I am 'ruining' life for others in this country?

You see what really makes me laugh is that whenever a debate begins people resort to getting angry and labelling (I am after all - 'selfish')
Nobody on here knows who I, or anyone else for that matter is; so if the debate can continue in a sensible manner (without me saying 'pop it up your bottom' to anyone included :rotfl:) I will continue, however I will ignore the sweeping statements regarding how I look after my children, how I have to shop regarding my circumstances and anyone generalising my character based on an internet (note the work interent) debate.

On the internet people only have the content of your posts, the description of your actions, the turn of phrase, and the underlying message to use, to make a decision on your overall character.

Using this criteria your posts do come across as selfish, uncaring , rude, and lacking in empathy to others. If this is not representative of your true character, then maybe you need to think more carefully about those aspects of your posts. We can only draw conclusions from posts, we haveno other info to go on. It is usually a good guide though imo.

DaisyClaire

poet123 wrote: »

On the internet people only have the content of your posts, the description of your actions, the turn of phrase, and the underlying message to use, to make a decision on your overall character.

Using this criteria your posts do come across as selfish, uncaring , rude, and lacking in empathy to others. If this is not representative of your true character, then maybe you need to think more carefully about those aspects of your posts. We can only draw conclusions from posts, we haveno other info to go on. It is usually a good guide though imo.

Surely intellegent people don't make a decision on peoples overall character on a forum. Thats actually ridiculous. My orginal post on this thread said nothing selfish, uncaring, rude or anything which lacked empathy for others. I made the statement I parked in a disabled spot when P&C spaces were not available - this on the advice of my store. Where did I deserve to be labelled? Perhaps others should of asked me if I thought it selfish? Not called me selfish without knowing the facts. Some people have 'suggested' I shop online - thats fine, others have told me to shop online, hinted at my ability to look after my children and blamed me for the terrible lack of respect for others in this world today!.

Im not easily upset and don't tread on eggshells, correct. However look back and read my first post - where did I come across as rude? and then once the facts were established, I became a two headed monster :rotfl:

adouglasmhor

My suggestion and it was only a suggestion was shop at the store but get them to deliver it (especialy if you can get them to do it free), if you are unfortunate enough to get stranded over in the overflow car park whe you have your kids in tow. That would enable you to give your kids a bit of extra attention while crossing the busy road and you wont have the nuisance of bumping up and down kerbs.

poet123

DaisyClaire wrote: »

Surely intellegent people don't make a decision on peoples overall character on a forum. Thats actually ridiculous.

I find that with anonymity comes truth, and that posts are usually indicative of character,not always, sometimes people play devils advocate for their own reasons.

Overall, though I think that posts do represent the traits in us that we may not even realise are there, or want to acknowledge.;)



My orginal post on this thread said nothing selfish, uncaring, rude or anything which lacked empathy for others. I made the statement I parked in a disabled spot when P&C spaces were not available -

In your first post you made no mention of it being on the advice of your store, you "saved" that for later. Presumably in the hope that their instruction would absolve you from responsibility?


this on the advice of my store. Where did I deserve to be labelled?

Using a disabled space is selfish, and unecesary if you are not disabled. You dont have the required authorisation, or the need. That is not a label, but a fact.

Perhaps others should of asked me if I thought it selfish? Not called me selfish without knowing the facts. Some people have 'suggested' I shop online - thats fine, others have told me to shop online, hinted at my ability to look after my children and blamed me for the terrible lack of respect for others in this world today!.

Do you think it is selfish? or do you think that because Tesco told you to do it it is OK?

Im not easily upset and don't tread on eggshells, correct. However look back and read my first post - where did I come across as rude? and then once the facts were established, I became a two headed monster :rotfl:

No one on a forum should tread on egg shells, nor should they expect to be told what they want to hear......the truth is sometimes unpalatable, oh and "pop it up your bottom" is not exactly polite conversation is it?

:rolleyes: so ,yes, my comments/observations from my previous post as explained above, stand.

biscit

poet123 wrote: »

Using this criteria your posts do come across as selfish, uncaring , rude, and lacking in empathy to others. If this is not representative of your true character, then maybe you need to think more carefully about those aspects of your posts. We can only draw conclusions from posts, we haveno other info to go on. It is usually a good guide though imo.

Pot, that kettle has had its looks improved by the introduction of electricity. Contrary to your assertation, it doesn't have to sit on a sooty fire.

biscit

Anyway, my duty making a stand for niceness done, back to parking spaces…

At our local Sainsbury’s the parking company have put up signs saying the P&C spaces are being monitored.

They did call the parking fees on those that break the T&C “fines”, but it is in a good cause and if it makes all but the most obstreperous people think twice about parking their without a small child I'm all for it.

olias

poet123 wrote: »

"pop it up your bottom" is not exactly polite conversation is it?

Depends on who's saying it to you and in what context:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Olias

qetu1357

biscit wrote: »

Anyway, my duty making a stand for niceness done, back to parking spaces…

At our local Sainsbury’s the parking company have put up signs saying the P&C spaces are being monitored.

They did call the parking fees on those that break the T&C “fines”, but it is in a good cause and if it makes all but the most obstreperous people think twice about parking their without a small child I'm all for it.

I have a question for all about parent and child places in any supermarket.

How young/old does the child have to be?

Can there be two adults with the child/children?

I ask as yesterday I saw a couple with a boy who must be 13 using a space.

adouglasmhor

qetu1357 wrote: »

I have a question for all about parent and child places in any supermarket.

How young/old does the child have to be?

Can there be two adults with the child/children?

I ask as yesterday I saw a couple with a boy who must be 13 using a space.

I admit I used one once with a 14 year old autistic boy and his dad in my car, I di go up to the service desk and explain the situation to them as soon as i got into the store and they were OK about it and took a note of my registration number. (He gets over exited and runs back to the car without looking sometimes so it's better to have as little as between the shop and the car).