Tesco - Parent/Child + disabled car spaces

peter_the_piper

trisontana wrote: »

Assuming that was a private car-park I cannot see why that traffic warden was giving out tickets. They have no powers on private land. Only on public roads and council-owned car-parks.

Unless the car park land was leased from the council then the painted lines are only there for guidance and have no legal meaning. You could have spaces for red cars only or flying saucers only and they would be just as enforceable. If people want the p&c spaces patrolled its up to the company to do so and not waste traffic wardens time.

mrcol1000

DaisyClaire wrote: »

In your opinion which quite frankly you can pop up your bottom :cool:

You really are a lovely person aren't you? I guess your hoping your children will grow up to be just as great as you.
I am not going to bother explaining why your selfish because others have tried and failed because your so wrapped up in yourself to care about anyone else. But well done for representing the kind of people that are ruining this country. You and others with your me me me me take on life are really runing it for the others in this country. So well done.

mrcol1000

trisontana wrote: »

Assuming that was a private car-park I cannot see why that traffic warden was giving out tickets. They have no powers on private land. Only on public roads and council-owned car-parks.

Some supermarkets lease the land from councils. I know of one supermarket where the car park is a council pay as you display although shoppers get the parking fee taken off their grocery bill. Council traffic wardens give the tickets and the supermarket staff get the abuse!

mrcol1000

DaisyClaire wrote: »

Maybe they would - Brandon in Suffolk, Tescos Metro, who have categorically told me they 'can do nothing about it' and 'just park in the disabled'. This amoung many other quotes I could expose.

From your posts I can well imagine how you talked to the Tesco staff who I am guessing said that just purely to get rid of you.

mrcol1000

DaisyClaire wrote: »

But thats puttng people into two groups; those who can cope with their children and those who find it a struggle!
Im don't find life with my children a struggle in the slightest. What I do find a struggle is trying to deal with them, a trolley with !!!!!! up wheels and a ton of shopping, the local tw&ts practising hand brake turns in the main car park and the huge line of traffic always competing to get into the petrol station (this is a BP adjacent to my Tesco store - I have to cross a road - including negotiating low kerbs to get to the overflow carpark where I have to park if the main carpark is full. May I add here the main carpark consists of mostly disabled spaces, P&C spaces and the odd few regular spaces).
This is the layout of one particular store though, I understand they aren't all like that.

If life is so hard and tough why not get your shopping delivered. I do and it avoids people like you so wrapped up in their own lives they don't notice that there are other people trying to do their shopping too.

biscit

My mum used to walk to the local market, she had no car in those days, she got her first car much later. I don't think for a small shop, with a couple of bags a mile isn't too far to walk.

So I wouldn't mind if the spaces were at the back on walking distance grounds. All the nasty swipes about people not wanting to walk are red herrings. Part of the point is to minimise the risks involved in crossing the car park.

The only reason I can see to put the spaces at the back of the car park would be to placate the sort of nasty, angry, unpleasant individual who actively has a problem with the spaces being there. And I don't think that side of human nature should be rewarded or pandered to.

I can understand people who don't see the point, who are a bit "meh" about them. But people who get riled by their existence, and get see people who justly get cross with non parent & non disabled people using them as whiners- they should not have their prejudices and personality flaws serviced.

poet123

So the sort of nasty, unpleasant individual who considers that because they have children, their needs, sorry wants take precedence over those who are disabled, should be pandered to?

I am not riled by the existence of P&C spaces, but by the assertion that they are needed, rather than wanted, and by the expectation that they will always be available, and that a complaint is in order if they aren't.

It is not difficult to ensure a child is safe on a car park if you are observing the usual parental guidelines, if you can't do that, maybe you should consider whether you should have kids anyway?:rolleyes:

olias

poet123 wrote: »

They are a perk, not a necessity, so dont whinge if they are unavailable, dont push Tesco to try to placate you by telling you to do something which is plainly wrong.

Quite right!

In my opinion, these new fangled disabled people and children are to blame - never had them in the olden days!:rotfl:

Olias

biscit

poet123 wrote: »

So the sort of nasty, unpleasant individual who considers that because they have children, their needs, sorry wants take precedence over those who are disabled, should be pandered to?

Sure, because it is not a need that rests solely in negative aspects of their characters, but in their personal circumstances. Resenting certain people for getting "perks", or those that complain when other people not entitled to those "perks" claim them is unpleasant behaviour.

poet123 wrote: »

I am not riled by the existence of P&C spaces, but by the assertion that they are needed, rather than wanted, and by the expectation that they will always be available, and that a complaint is in order if they aren't.

If you don't have a problem with the existence of P&C spaces near the entrance of the store, then OK, I wasn't talking about you, apologies if my wording was unclear and confusing. If you have a problem with people parking in disabled spaces when P&C spaces are unavailable, then while your anger may be a bit OTT, you are in the right to be cross.

If the store has asked people to park there, it is rude and unpleasant to direct anger at anyone but the store.

If a person has a problem with people who complain when people who are not disabled and don't have young people use P&C spaces, then that problem does not lie with the attitude of the people objecting to the abuse of P&C spaces.

DaisyClaire

mrcol1000 wrote: »

You really are a lovely person aren't you? I guess your hoping your children will grow up to be just as great as you.
I am not going to bother explaining why your selfish because others have tried and failed because your so wrapped up in yourself to care about anyone else. But well done for representing the kind of people that are ruining this country. You and others with your me me me me take on life are really runing it for the others in this country. So well done.

So based on the fact I have taken a different angle of the debate, based on the fact that I did something I was advised to do by Tesco and based on the fact I made a childish remark (which I am sure gave a few a giggle;)) which was in no way rude, did not contain any swear words [ sniggers] and was not aimed at hurting any individuals feelings...you have concluded, that I am 'ruining' life for others in this country?

You see what really makes me laugh is that whenever a debate begins people resort to getting angry and labelling (I am after all - 'selfish')
Nobody on here knows who I, or anyone else for that matter is; so if the debate can continue in a sensible manner (without me saying 'pop it up your bottom' to anyone included :rotfl:) I will continue, however I will ignore the sweeping statements regarding how I look after my children, how I have to shop regarding my circumstances and anyone generalising my character based on an internet (note the work interent) debate.