Beaver subs double Brownies

hangers

Wow, thanks for all the replies. Don't know where to start!
I am now aware from your messages that there is an annual Capitation charge for the Beavers, which I didn't know and someone said it may cost more to insure boys than girls, so I guess my query has been answered. Some of the posters seem to pay less in subs although Peachyprice pays the same as me per term for her brownies. Just wanted to get an idea of what others pay for the uniformed groups.
My boys LOVE beavers and my daughter LOVES brownies. I have only praise for the leaders who volunteer their time and effort into the groups. Not at all did I mean to imply that they were being paid!
I help out at the church's toddler group, once a week for 1 1/2 hours, I don't have any children there now as mine are at school..so feel I do contribute to the parish.
In response to dizziblonde, I know that the boys don't HAVE to go to beavers, I was just trying to get other PARENTS views/experiences. I know that twins will use the same amount of materials for crafts etc. and snacks, maybe I should have put "siblings" and not "twins" in my first post. The only reason I thought there may be a discount is that sporting groups have offered me 20% discount, dancing groups in the past offered 15% discount (I have 2 girls and twin boys), private nursery gave me 20% discount and Clarks shoes give 10%. Don't get me wrong, I have not asked for these discounts, when I have gone to pay the 1st time, I was offered these. Was pleased to see that tiamai_d said the boys brigade offer discount and that sunnth was offered a discount at beavers.
I guess the "twin" issue is another matter, I always send my boys to parties with a pressie each for the birthday child (or if it's a double party, 2 pressies each). At school when they ask for donations for summer/christmas fairs, I give each 1 of my 4 something to take in. I don't think I'm tight, but just wanted others opinions on the fact that both groups are in the same hall, for the same duration (give 15 mins) and 1 is double the price of the other! Thanks everyone for your contributions. x

Spendless

When you say 'a term' are you talking about a full term ie from Jan till Easter, or do you mean a half -term from May half term to beg of school summer hols.

I pay £2.50 a week for Beavers and the same amount for cubs. That would work out at roughly £30 a term (if we are talking full terms). In ADDITION I pay £20 per child per annum capitation fee.

Do the Beavers/Brownies take place in the same hall? If not is it possible that they are paying different rents? Other than that I wondered about different activities, does Beavers offer more activities/ outings than Brownies?

shop-to-drop

Brownies was 15p a week when i went.

hangers

Hi Spendless, in January I paid £60.00 and in May £60.00. Don't pay the capitation fee, guess its included.

Yes, both groups in the same hut, could be paying different rents, but can't see why they would.

So far, they have not been off the premises to do outdoor activites/trips, they had a panto (cost of £5 each = £10) and brownies had a panto which was paid for by the brownies.

There is a day camp next month, about £17 each, my lads not going due to cost, just said on my last post I wasn't tight...maybe I should find the £34!

bubblegumcola

My DS goes to cubs once a week and we pay £1 per week, it was £2 but when he went back last year after the summer break they put the cost down. I presumed the cost was put down as the credit crunch had kicked in and it was to make it more affordable for everyone. We pay extra for camps and pay a small amount for other activites, usually at Xmas and end of term they get a treat like ten pin bowling. We pay between 20 and 30 quid for the membership fee which you can pay in one go or in instalments.

I really appreciate the fact that these people give up their time to run these clubs. My son loves it, he learns new skills, goes on camps, day trips and earns his badges with alot of pride. I couldn't do what they do. Its not alot to pay to keep your kids amused for an hour and a half by people who do the job for the love of it. All those kids to keep under control and keep amused I wish I had their patience!

dieselhead

Aww just want to say thanks to all the posters who said their kids love what we do, I have been at brownies this evening and running round like a headless chicken but I do love doing it and I hope that the girls learn some skills that they wouldn't otherwise have learned, and think of brownies as being really really good fun!

peachyprice

Spendless wrote: »

When you say 'a term' are you talking about a full term ie from Jan till Easter, or do you mean a half -term from May half term to beg of school summer hols.

Mine is per whole term, when we came back after easter I paid £30 to cover until the start of the summer hols.

Census is due every January £20. If you start after January, say at Easter or in September, you don't pay until the following January.

I seem to get a little longer for my money, 1hr 45 mins

dizziblonde

I just can't quite believe some people query the value for money they're getting from a voluntary organization and accuse leaders of putting their hands in the kitty for personal gain to be honest. If you don't like the "value for money" you're getting (and these organizations are largely run by volunteers apart from the paid central admin staff) - then don't go. But the implications that the leaders are creaming money off, shouldn't claim expenses at all and set fees ridiculously high (I'm damned well sure they don't - halls and things cost a fair whack to hire these days when they've got insurance costs etc that they have to pass on to the people hiring) just out of sheer spite in some corporate profiteering move - that's just sickening.

I'm not a brownie or beaver leader - I spent all of my childhood until I went to uni benefiting from guiding though, and most of my relatives have been or are involved in one or other of the organizations (I keep hammering away trying to volunteer myself but the email gets so far down the line and then gets lost in the system with no reply) and I know the endless hours they put in, the additional costs they do absorb personally and don't claim expenses for and the like - and then for some people to sit on here slating them that they're trying to rip you off is a sad state of the world's affairs.

stationaryace

dizziblonde wrote: »

I'm not a brownie or beaver leader - I spent all of my childhood until I went to uni benefiting from guiding though, and most of my relatives have been or are involved in one or other of the organizations (I keep hammering away trying to volunteer myself but the email gets so far down the line and then gets lost in the system with no reply) and I know the endless hours they put in, the additional costs they do absorb personally and don't claim expenses for and the like - and then for some people to sit on here slating them that they're trying to rip you off is a sad state of the world's affairs.

dizziblonde- if you know which group you want to volunteer in, I would advise turning up on the night of the weekly meeting (if you know where and when it is) with your contact details to hand to the leader. These in turn can be passed on to the person in charge of the area who should contact you fairly quickly. Personally, we've found details get lost in our City Guiding HQ as it is only manned 8 hours a week, but the leaders of all the groups tend to have close contact with their commissioner (ie area supervisor).

galvanizersbaby

dizziblonde wrote: »

I just can't quite believe some people query the value for money they're getting from a voluntary organization and accuse leaders of putting their hands in the kitty for personal gain to be honest. If you don't like the "value for money" you're getting (and these organizations are largely run by volunteers apart from the paid central admin staff) - then don't go. But the implications that the leaders are creaming money off, shouldn't claim expenses at all and set fees ridiculously high (I'm damned well sure they don't - halls and things cost a fair whack to hire these days when they've got insurance costs etc that they have to pass on to the people hiring) just out of sheer spite in some corporate profiteering move - that's just sickening.

I'm not a brownie or beaver leader - I spent all of my childhood until I went to uni benefiting from guiding though, and most of my relatives have been or are involved in one or other of the organizations (I keep hammering away trying to volunteer myself but the email gets so far down the line and then gets lost in the system with no reply) and I know the endless hours they put in, the additional costs they do absorb personally and don't claim expenses for and the like - and then for some people to sit on here slating them that they're trying to rip you off is a sad state of the world's affairs.

I must admit I must have missed the posts on this thread that have said this - or are you talking about folks in general?