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Landlord wants to sell - I don't want viewings...

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  • Cook a lot of fish?
    Skid marked panties on the landing?
    Specialist magazines and vaseline on bed side table?
    Saucepan with half an inch of water in middle of lounge floor?
    Nice array of mouse traps, ant powder, fly spray?
    Prominent poster with environmental health nise department and asbo unit contact no.s next to the phone?
    Lots of clothes airers everywhere demonstrating lack of space?
    Panic buttons/rape alarms in every room?
    Dehumidifiers/fan heaters everywhere?

    HOUSE DOCTOR that rental!!!

    *feel free to add your own favourites....

    OMG, had to clean the screen and change me knicks !!!!!
    Blackpool_Saver is female, and does not live in Blackpool

  • As a landlord myself I'm disgusted at some of the suggestions that you deliberately act like amoron and live like a pig to deliberately make a bad situation even worse.

    Yes, it is very inconvenient for you, when you are working from home. If it was me, I would offer some form of compensation for the inconvenience.

    2 things come to mind.
    1. Your landlord is breaking the law by not having safety certificates in place.
    2. Have you informed your landlord & the local council you are conducting business from home. ?



    Within reason is the appropriate comment.

    Personally, if I was in your position, I'd move as soon as possible and let the landlord fork out the costs of the property from his own pocket.
  • missymugwump
    missymugwump Posts: 1,171 Forumite
    Illegal, not to mention that it will jeopodise any reference which you will need should you move into other rented accomodation.



    It is not illegal at all
    :rotfl:
    "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." :cool:


    All truth goes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Then, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.
  • superfran_uk
    superfran_uk Posts: 1,117 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Combo Breaker
    I'm waiting for our viewers as we speak... Actually I can see them circling outside! Expecting them to think i'll be out. I got dressed and everything!
  • missymugwump
    missymugwump Posts: 1,171 Forumite
    Castleman wrote: »
    In reply to the OP:

    Would you sign for a place that you haven't seen?

    I.e. if you say no viewings and you get given your notice, then whilst looking for a new place, none of the existing tenants or landlords in those places are allowing others to look around, would you be happy?

    I know it's a drag and a hassle, been there done that. BUT it does appear incredibly selfish that you can't put aside a certain period each week, even if you have to change it each week too.



    This can work in your favour

    We used to view tenanted properties,we saw all sorts of repairs & cleaning that needed doing,promises were made etc..
    These things were NEVER done as promised when we moved in,tenants left un cut lawns,piles of rubbish etc...LA's are very clever at keeping these things verbal only so no come back

    We now only view empty properties (there are plenty) if they are dirty or need repair we ask for it in writing that it will be done before we hand over any money
    The LL is usually desperate to re let it so is more inclined to be helpful towards requests & rent reductions,every cloud & all that
    "Very funny, Scotty. Now beam down my clothes." :cool:


    All truth goes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Then, it is violently opposed. Finally, it is accepted as self-evident.
  • view
    view Posts: 2,242 Forumite
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    Well tbs624 I do take offense at being called or my words being called offensive when I am anything but.

    You may be a type of person who can just ignore any rant against themself regardless if it is said in the 'real' world or on an itnernet forum but to me, it hurts just the same.

    I stand by what I said, I do think advice about leaving dirty knickers and rape alarms around the place strange. Yes it is different advice, so is mine - maybe the posters found my post strange also -that's their perogative, we're all different.

    I don't know why you've taken it onto yourself to carry what I consider to be bullying against me when I was just trying to offer advice to the OP about personal experience but if it makes you any happier I'll just leave it alone, you've you won, bullying obviously works for you. Why don't you put more effort into tyring to help the OP rather than belittle me.

    I'll not post on this post again in the fear that I'll be dissected & mocked again as yes, I'm not afraid to admit it upsets me, when I consider myself to be an unoffensive person who is just trying to help - to the OP as I have said all along, I wish you the best for your current situation.
  • superfran_uk
    superfran_uk Posts: 1,117 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Combo Breaker
    This is too funny. GoldenJill, this is the internet. There is no point in getting into an argument, as at the end of the day nobody wins. And there is certainly no point in getting upset about it when what you are saying is wrong anyway; the OP is under no obligation legally or morally to consent to viewings at this point in his tenancy, so people are having fun with it - that is all.

    My viewer seemed a bit... strange...so I didn't mention the landlord being a !!!!. It's him and a mate, both in their 20s. I think they'll probably move in and mess the place up good and proper, or at least I can hope.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    edited 20 June 2009 at 9:36PM
    As a landlord myself I'm disgusted at some of the suggestions that you deliberately act like amoron and live like a pig to deliberately make a bad situation even worse.
    Think perhaps you need to get over yourself & have a sense of humour.:smiley: Look back:
    BigJonnyB wrote: »
    .....Thanks again to everyone for their posts - I was laughing out loud at the suggestions for making the house less presentable, and its really helped while we're stressed and unsure about what to do.
    Yes, it is very inconvenient for you, when you are working from home. If it was me, I would offer some form of compensation for the inconvenience.
    That's good to hear but, as I mentioned in a previous post, the T is still fully entitled to refuse your offer and say no to viewings. The LLs choice is then to either give the T notice and have the property stand empty whilst s/he finds a buyer or the T stays put and the LL enjoys the fact that the mortgage is covered by that rent. Clutton's marvellous term "he wants his cake his halfpenny and his gingerbread" definitely applies.
    2 things come to mind.
    1. Your landlord is breaking the law by not having safety certificates in place.
    Yep and let's expand on that one - separate charges for (a) failing to get a gas safety check done & gas safety cert completed (b) failing to provide a gas safety certificate to the T and (c) failing to retain gas safety certificates for two years ( because clearly if you don't get one done, you have nothing to retain)
    2. Have you informed your landlord & the local council you are conducting business from home. ?
    You are perhaps jumping to conclusions - many people "work from home" but it does not mean that they are running a business from the premises. It is, any event, far more important that the T informs the Council that the LL flouts the gas safety regs and the tenancy deposit laws.The HSE would also like to know about LLs who don't comply on gas safety.
    Within reason is the appropriate comment.
    Two way process - as a LL you will surely agree that if you treat your tenants with respect it's generally reciprocated. The problem has been the huge growth in newbie LLs who do not have a clue and have a useless LA standing alongside them. Tenants are not a sub-species: there are ways for a LL to broach the subject and acknowledging the T's right to quiet enjoyment of the property is a pretty basic requirement of letting any property.
    Personally, if I was in your position, I'd move as soon as possible and let the landlord fork out the costs of the property from his own pocket.
    Why *should* the T move out at this stage, unless it suits him personally to do so? It's worth remembering that if that tenancy deposit should have been scheme registered, and wasn't, then the LL cannot serve a valid S21 notice.:grin:
  • kippen_noedel
    kippen_noedel Posts: 822 Forumite
    edited 20 June 2009 at 7:50PM
    tbs624 wrote: »
    edited out long quote
    You misunderstand me significantly, by no means am I on this landlords side.

    My suggestion of moving was only anticipating that the tenant will most likely have to anyway. I do like the idea of the landlord being left to foot the bills and losing the income. As was so correctly put he's trying to have all the cake.

    Working from home legally is more complicated than people think. If you work for yourself or for 50%+ of the time as an employee you have income/council tax implications. more than 10% you should inform your energy supplier. If an employees the company has obligations under the HSE to ensure it meets the correct standards. etc, etc... made small to restrict taking away from the OPs original question

    The landlord is, from what I've read, not fit to be one. Still both parties should act within reason.
  • annberlin
    annberlin Posts: 79 Forumite
    You have all given me a good laugh on this posting in fact I had to change my knickers. OH wanted to know what I was laughing at and now he needs to change his too.Good luck to the OP, hope it all works out.:beer:
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