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Landlord wants to sell - I don't want viewings...

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  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    edited 18 June 2009 at 8:43AM
    Castleman wrote: »
    if you say no viewings and you get given your notice, then whilst looking for a new place, none of the existing tenants or landlords in those places are allowing others to look around, would you be happy?
    Missing the point and many Ts *will* agree to viewings in the right circumstances, as BigJonnyB has indicated.
    Castleman wrote: »
    ...I know it's a drag and a hassle, been there done that. BUT it does appear incredibly selfish that you can't put aside a certain period each week, even if you have to change it each week too.
    Perhaps you need to look back through what the OP says about this tenancy.

    The LL/LA for this property has (a) failed to register the tenancy deposit and (b) failed to get a gas safety check/certificate. Both of which are "pretty selfish" acts, and both of which constitute a flouting of the most basic LL&T laws:hardly likely to encourage warm feelings & a generosity of spirit from the T towards the LL/LA. It's ""pretty selfish" to want to have it both ways, ie enjoy the benefits of having a T (property occupied and money coming in) and yet simply expect to intrude upon their family life as and when it suits.

    The fact is that Ts do tend to allow viewings towards the very end of their tenancy, particularly when the LL has shown themselves to be fair: in this case, neither the LL nor the T has given notice so the tenancy may be continuing for quite a lengthy period of time with yet more of these intrusions on the horizon , and both the LL/LA appear to have failed to meet their own very basic legal obligations towards the T, demonstrating an arrogance that is all too familiar to those who deal with tenancy issues.The combination of unqualified, untrained, ignorant, unregulated LAs and "reluctant" amateur LLs do not offer a sound basis on which a mutually respectful LL& T relationship can be built, unfortunately.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    GoldenJill wrote: »
    tbs624 you've certainly taken a lot of time to dissect my thoughts.
    On the contrary, very little time expended :grin:
    GoldenJill wrote: »
    I think you've missed the point of my post. I was giving a view from my years and years of personal experience as a tenant.
    Easily "missed" by most readers as all that experience wasn't mentioned in your previous post.
    GoldenJill wrote: »
    … was trying to give advice to help the OP live harmoniously with their LL. I felt he deserved this after some very strange advice about putting up rape alarms/Matalan catalogues/dirty knickers!!
    Humour often helps defuse these sort of situations between LL&T: we're all supposed to accept your posts as an attempt to help and yet you describe the posts of others as "very strange" when they too are trying to help, but simply have a different slant on life to your own.

    GoldenJill wrote: »
    We all are different and have different views, I can accept that - why can't you?
    If you really can accept others viewpoints, you’d not have got yourself in a tizzy over my response post, nor chosen to use phrases which indicate pretty clearly that it is you who is “acting defensively.” You may, for example, like to check back: I referred to one of your comments as offensive - that does not equate to calling you as a person offensive.
    GoldenJill wrote: »
    ...and I would appreciate in future if you could take a moment to think before you respond so harshly to someone who is just trying to help.
    ]Do I have to come to detention after school, miss?:grin: Some of us would perhaps have preferred you to take a moment to think before posting, not least because your own “years and years of experience as a tenant” do not seem to have equipped you with even a basic understanding of LL&T rights & obligations.

    All of us, and that includes you and me, need to understand that what we post in a forum is open to getting “read” in different ways by different people: you found my post “harsh”, I (and others, it seems) find your turn of phrase unfortunate, but the fact is that it’s best to not to be over-sensitive nor take too personally anything that gets posted up on an internet forum.

    I hope the sun shines for you and that you have a good weekend :smiley:
  • franklee
    franklee Posts: 3,867 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic
    I shop at Matalan :rotfl: Two tee shirts for five pounds, is this no longer MSE ;) I don't have the catalogue - yet.
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 19 June 2009 at 3:27PM
    Illegal, not to mention that it will jeopodise any reference which you will need should you move into other rented accomodation.

    Shelters says you can change the locks. I have on the house I rent and did that as soon as I moved in. I always do when I move house and renting is no different to me.

    "You may even be able to change the locks if you want to. However, this doesn't apply to:
    • excluded occupiers (eg people lodging in the landlord's home and most people living in hostels), or
    • certain occupiers with basic protection (eg students in halls of residence and people who have to live in their home in order to do their job)."
    http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/renting_and_leasehold/rights_and_responsibilities/landlords_responsibilities

    Re references, when I was asked for previous landlord references, I explained I had just sold my house and had never rented before. The letting agent then said they wouldn't bother with references then. The house had been empty for 2 months and the LL was getting desperate.

    I would only allow viewings once notice has been given. So if you give your 1 months notice, the LL only has one month to find a buyer and sell the house. You can't be expected to give viewings in the last two months, if you have only just realised you want to move, as you are only required to give 1 months notice.

    I would also ration the viewings to strictly one viewing block per week. I would of course, expect to be given at least 24 hours notice of those viewing in writing and to asked if the time is convenient to me. Unless I was offered £50 a viewing (payable in advance) as that would put a different slant on things:D
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Good luck, OP.

    Loved the anti-House Doctoring ideas!

    So do people who shop at Matalan have obvious mental health issues then? This has always escaped me. Maybe because I've shopped there too.

    Oh no, I see a pattern emerging.
  • Gingernutmeg
    Gingernutmeg Posts: 3,454 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    carolt wrote: »
    So do people who shop at Matalan have obvious mental health issues then? This has always escaped me. Maybe because I've shopped there too.

    Oh no, I see a pattern emerging.

    I've shopped in a Matalan outlet centre ... I'm very worried what that says about me :)
  • 50plusabit
    50plusabit Posts: 190 Forumite
    Illegal, not to mention that it will jeopodise any reference which you will need should you move into other rented accomodation.

    Actually NOT illegal
    Be-littling somebody only make's you look a bully.
    Any comments I make on here are my opinions, having worked in the lettings industry, and through life.
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    I've shopped in a Matalan outlet centre ... I'm very worried what that says about me :)
    :rotfl: You're clearly beyond help GN........
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    50plusabit wrote: »
    Actually NOT illegal
    See post 17, plus Miss Moneypenny's post (no 57) - don't want anyone misled by that clumsy unintentional thanks......;)
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    who is thanking who - I lost the plot - thats IF i ever had it in the first place .....
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