Cost of new bathroom installation - is this fair?

theexten

zareer wrote: »

Hi, I am having a new bathroom suite installed and I have a quote for the work. Basically, the quote is for ripping out the existing tiles and bath/toilet/sink and installing a new 3pc bathroom suite, tiling the floor and part of the wall and repainting the whole area.

The full quote is:

Remove old suite and tiles
Plaster all walls to make good
fit new bath and taps
fit new toilet and cistern
fit new basin and taps
fit new built in thermostatic shower
fit new shower screen
fit new chrome towel rail
Fit marine plywood to floor and screw at 150mm centres with stainless screws
Tile floor and walls around bath
Decorate room in colour of your choice

And the quote: £4,850!

I live in NW London if this makes a difference. Anyone have a view as to whether this is reasonable? Thanks

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I run a building company which mainly works for clients in central London. We would charge £3,600 inc. VAT, whereas lower prices are subject to location.

Sounds very expensive!!!

marclewis

The price might not be as high as you think. Bath can cost from £100 to £600, WC & Cistern £150 to £500 Basin £100 to £400, Bath taps £120 to £200+, Basin taps £80 to £160+, Bath pop up waste and overflow £30 to £40, Shower control unit £200 to £400+, Shower screen £100 to £400 and then tiles per square metre £20 to £60+. Many of my clients have paid over £3000 for these items. Even £1000 would not get you much quality items. Doble bathrooms (On the web) have some high end WC & Cisterns at about £400. Yes you can buy one from B & Q for £80, but it's not that good. [/COLOR]

zareer wrote: »

Hi andy, I am supplying all the items - tiles, suite, everything. he quoted an additional £1,600 for supplying them all, which I thought was ridiculous.

marclewis

It can't possibly be £3600 Inc vat for every bathroom as some bathrooms are much larger than others. Some bathrooms may have a shower and bath, while others with have just a bath with possible a shower control unit over the top. Also some clients want complete tiling and others only want a small amount.

theexten wrote: »

zareer wrote: »

Hi, I am having a new bathroom suite installed and I have a quote for the work. Basically, the quote is for ripping out the existing tiles and bath/toilet/sink and installing a new 3pc bathroom suite, tiling the floor and part of the wall and repainting the whole area.

The full quote is:

Remove old suite and tiles
Plaster all walls to make good
fit new bath and taps
fit new toilet and cistern
fit new basin and taps
fit new built in thermostatic shower
fit new shower screen
fit new chrome towel rail
Fit marine plywood to floor and screw at 150mm centres with stainless screws
Tile floor and walls around bath
Decorate room in colour of your choice

And the quote: £4,850!

I live in NW London if this makes a difference. Anyone have a view as to whether this is reasonable? Thanks

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I run a building company which mainly works for clients in central London. We would charge £3,600 inc. VAT, whereas lower prices are subject to location.

Sounds very expensive!!!

marclewis

That's a good price.

andyhop wrote: »

Plaster will not take the weight of travertine, Plasterboard will be on the limit so you may require cement board/wedi board ec

Plaster can carry 20kg per sqm
Plasterboard 32
Backer boards or cement render 40+

Hebrew

I am having the Bathroom suite installed in the new location for £500 (i supply the suite). The bathroom & toilet used to be downstairs but now moving upstairs. New location not above the old one. Tiling is extra... around £20 per sqm.

I had a part of the wall in the new loaction knocked down and a new wall went in, plus a double glazing window, plastering, door frame x 2 and relocating the two doors (fitting the door handles & locks) all for £1000.
In NOTTS

ashcroft121

Hi all,

Just my 2 pence on this rather long thread! As someone who installs luxury bathrooms for a living, I’m not touting for business on a money-saving forum. I just wanted to offer some advice to people who are trying to get their costs down on such projects.

1.) Don’t skimp on the cost of your sanitaryware. Acrylic baths come in 3 thicknesses, 3mm, 5mm and 8mm. The 3mm ones are rubbish and are to be avoided at all costs, unless you like replacing cracked baths down the line!
2.) Similarly cheap sinks and WCs can stain far more easily and are also harder to clean. More expensive sanitaryware is generally much more scratch and stain resistant, protecting your investment for longer and saving on cleaning time.
3.) Tiles – this is a big area you can make savings on. Visit your smaller independent tile shops and look for end of line tiles. These are often on sale for up to half the normal price, resulting in huge savings if you are tiling an entire room.
4.) Never, never let anyone put up plasterboard in a shower area. Contrary to popular opinion, tiles and grout are not waterproof. If plasterboard gets even slightly wet it turns into a soggy mess. I have ripped out too many shower cubicles where previous tradesmen have installed plasterboard behind tiles in shower areas. Make sure you have Aquaboards or equivalent installed, much cheaper in the long run.
5.) Large format tiles (anything over 30cm in any direction) need to be stuck to the wall with cement-based adhesives (not ready-mixed tubbed adhesives). The reason for this is cement-based adhesives dry by chemical reaction whereas tubbed adhesives dry by evaporation of the water in them. Large format tiles don’t let enough air in to cause tubbed adhesives to dry. Result? Tiles falling off the wall within a very short time.
6.) Floors should always be fixed with a quality cement-based adhesive.#
7.) Taps can be purchased really cheaply on Ebay, but make sure you go for a brand offering a fully comprehensive warranty (5 years is quite normal). Don’t think it’s good value to buy unbranded taps with no warranty, they will most likely need replacing in a year or two.

All of this advice is offered from my own experiences of repairing bad workmanship caused by tradesmen. I hope this helps someone save money but avoid going too cheap and having to have the bathroom ripped out in a couple of years.

Hugbubble

ashcroft121 wrote: »

Hi all,

Just my 2 pence on this rather long thread! As someone who installs luxury bathrooms for a living, I’m not touting for business on a money-saving forum. I just wanted to offer some advice to people who are trying to get their costs down on such projects.

1.) Don’t skimp on the cost of your sanitaryware. Acrylic baths come in 3 thicknesses, 3mm, 5mm and 8mm. The 3mm ones are rubbish and are to be avoided at all costs, unless you like replacing cracked baths down the line!
2.) Similarly cheap sinks and WCs can stain far more easily and are also harder to clean. More expensive sanitaryware is generally much more scratch and stain resistant, protecting your investment for longer and saving on cleaning time.
3.) Tiles – this is a big area you can make savings on. Visit your smaller independent tile shops and look for end of line tiles. These are often on sale for up to half the normal price, resulting in huge savings if you are tiling an entire room.
4.) Never, never let anyone put up plasterboard in a shower area. Contrary to popular opinion, tiles and grout are not waterproof. If plasterboard gets even slightly wet it turns into a soggy mess. I have ripped out too many shower cubicles where previous tradesmen have installed plasterboard behind tiles in shower areas. Make sure you have Aquaboards or equivalent installed, much cheaper in the long run.
5.) Large format tiles (anything over 30cm in any direction) need to be stuck to the wall with cement-based adhesives (not ready-mixed tubbed adhesives). The reason for this is cement-based adhesives dry by chemical reaction whereas tubbed adhesives dry by evaporation of the water in them. Large format tiles don’t let enough air in to cause tubbed adhesives to dry. Result? Tiles falling off the wall within a very short time.
6.) Floors should always be fixed with a quality cement-based adhesive.#
7.) Taps can be purchased really cheaply on Ebay, but make sure you go for a brand offering a fully comprehensive warranty (5 years is quite normal). Don’t think it’s good value to buy unbranded taps with no warranty, they will most likely need replacing in a year or two.

All of this advice is offered from my own experiences of repairing bad workmanship caused by tradesmen. I hope this helps someone save money but avoid going too cheap and having to have the bathroom ripped out in a couple of years.

Hi

Thanks for this really useful post. I'm getting my bathrooms done shortly and going to the showroom tomorrow to pick the products I want. (yay!)

Out of interest, what- in your opinion- consitutes good quality sanitaryware?

I like Roca for its style/ designs but have heard mixed reviews. That said, the existing suite is Roca and has been in the flat for nearly 10 years since the building was converted (I've bought it 2 years ago) and it still looks pretty good.

Ta very much

Jas123_2

Hi - Getting my bathroom redone and using existing toilet / bath biday / sink / shower enclosure. How much labour do you think i would have to pay for the following to be done. I am using an electrician and a tiler.

Wire up underfloor heating mat / illumated bathroom mirror / wire up inline fan in loft space.

Remove shower enclosure and tray / toilet / sink / biday

Replaster patches in shower area and bath area after removing old tiles / under new radiator where pipes had to be taken from the floor into the wall.

Tile and grout 35m2 of wall tiles
Lay insualtion boards and heating mat and tile floor 7m2
Overboard and skim ceiling - approx 9m2
Install new shower mixer into existing pipework
Fitted new wall mounted designer radiator on wall and connect to central heating from under the floor into the wall.
Reinstall shower tray / enclosure / toilet / biday to existing pipework.
Seal everything up with silcone, etc.

I am supply all the grout and adhesive, its just the labour for all this i'm not sure what i would expect to pay.

Any help would be great.

Ruth1

Hi there, we are currently having a new bathroom, we have bought all the fittings and materials ourselves approx cost £3000.
We have one bloke the plumber doing most of the work with his brother the electrician helping out when needed.
We have had the chimney removed from the roof and out of the bathroom which made a bit of a mess.The walls have been boarded and plastered where needed and skimmed. The room is now ready to be fitted out, which will be done next week.
The scaffolding and the skip were £300 and labour so far has cost about £600 for the plumber[£100 a day] and £400 for the electrician, we expect it to take another week or so, so labour will come in at under £2000
Break the cost down to see how many are doing the job and how much you are paying on a daily basic, that price sounds very expensive, good luck

ListysDad

My goodness a Time Travel Forum. £100 a day for a proper plumber! Where do you live, Afganistan!?

Even labourers I know earn £140 a day in this climate. Sounds to me like it's cash to someone off a site looking to make ends meet. We'll pray for you when stuff starts falling apart...