Starting BOTOX business - any nurses do this?

DrBM

Hello,

I am looking to train and set up a small business as a side-line and have found this to be a very useful thread already.

I just have a couple of questions. The product information states that administering Botox should be done in a specialist centre so if an anaphylactic reacts occurs, it can be dealt with. How do people get around this if the Botox is being administered in someone's home. Is an epi-pen regarded as sufficient?

For people who are also working as nurses how do you manage your clients as well as the nursing workload?

I feel a little overwhelmed with the number of companies offering courses and don't know who to book with? Is it better to book one-off courses or go for these week long courses ( I also want to do fillers and rollers etc).

I would be grateful for any information received.

ps - are there any other web-sites/forums that discuss this?

Thank-you

mj28

Hi I'm a registered nurse and interested in setting up an aesthetic clinic as a full time job but I'm not sure how I would be able to maintain my nurse registration. I would be grateful if anyone who has already gone down this path could please advice me how they have over come this .

JWilde

When considering a move into aesthetics, firstly find out how many practitioners are already practicing in your area (you'd be surprised how many there are), choose insurance approved courses like Wigmore Training for example and where you will practice from. Few nurses aren't aware that delivering Botox in someone elses house invalidates their insurance, nurse are also not allowed to hold stock of Botulinum Toxin Type A so shouldn't be able to consult and treat on the same day. You would need to attend an Anaphlyxis course and purchase a kit designed specifically reaction to fillers and botox. As for keeping your registration unfortunately you'd need to do the occasional bank shift. Hope this helps

Nik_79

Hi, I am a registered nurse wanting to study to undertake Botox and fillers, and work independently. I have read lots of the useful feedback and discussions on here. I'm still unclear how I find a GP to willing prescribe. Do I just ask the GPs I work alongside as I'm a district nurse. Also how does that GP assess my client? to be able to write a patient specific prescription? Will the GP charge me for seeing that patient as the likeliness is the patient will not be registered with that practice? Some clear guidance would be of help from more experienced practitioners please as it's a great expense to undertake the procedures if I'm not able to get hold of the supplies. Many thanks

SKI

To prescribe any POM the client/patient HAS to be assessed by the prescriber. It can then be administered by a registered professional with the necessary training. You would need to have the GP in your business and to confirm in writing that they are happy for you to administer botox and I'm sure they would be looking for a fee for this private service. Be aware too that the RCN will not provide indemnity for you if you use another professional out with the RCN.

Lozzie-loo

Ok, so I am nurse independent prescriber - however I was under the impression that I could not administer what I prescribe, so how does it work for someone like me??

Does the training advise you??

L x

merseybotoxnurse

JWilde wrote: »

Few nurses aren't aware that delivering Botox in someone elses house invalidates their insurance, nurse are also not allowed to hold stock of Botulinum Toxin Type A so shouldn't be able to consult and treat on the same day. You would need to attend an Anaphlyxis course and purchase a kit designed specifically reaction to fillers and botox. As for keeping your registration unfortunately you'd need to do the occasional bank shift. Hope this helps

So J Wilde is incorrect here, first of all if you practice from someone's home it does not invalidate your insurance. The RCN will say you can inject anywhere, other insurers may ask where you treat but mine never have (I work in my clinic and satellite places but don't do mobile unless someone has access problems). Your NHS anaphylaxis training will cover you and you can't "purchase" adrenaline, as you cannot hold stock in the majority of cases. There are obviously exceptions to this but this doesn't apply to a lot of nurses. You also do not need to do bank shifts, administering aesthetic procedures will maintain your NMC registration especially if you are a V300 nurse. Also, I don't like Wigmore for training! Most private companies will say it's botox training but they train you in other toxins. Contact Allergan and ask them who trains in Botox or look at HFIS.

merseybotoxnurse

Lozzie-loo wrote: »

Ok, so I am nurse independent prescriber - however I was under the impression that I could not administer what I prescribe, so how does it work for someone like me??

Does the training advise you??

L x

You need to separate the prescribing from the administration as much as possible. This is not always feasible especially when you work by yourself, you do need to get someone suitable to check the medication though. I know some nurses who show it to the person and state this is your Botox, they show them that their name is on the pharmacy label etc. A lot of training companies skim over the details or legalities. Cosmetica is very good at giving you the details so you could e-mail them and fire lots of questions at them :-)

merseybotoxnurse

Nik_79 wrote: »

Hi, I am a registered nurse wanting to study to undertake Botox and fillers, and work independently. I have read lots of the useful feedback and discussions on here. I'm still unclear how I find a GP to willing prescribe. Do I just ask the GPs I work alongside as I'm a district nurse. Also how does that GP assess my client? to be able to write a patient specific prescription? Will the GP charge me for seeing that patient as the likeliness is the patient will not be registered with that practice? Some clear guidance would be of help from more experienced practitioners please as it's a great expense to undertake the procedures if I'm not able to get hold of the supplies. Many thanks

You won't be able to work independently without your V300 so I would aim to get this in the long term. Your presciber doesn't have to be a GP, as long as they are an independent prescriber that is fine but if you choose a nurse they need to be trained in the administration of Botox as a nurse prescriber can only prescribe within their competency.

Guidance has changed for doctors and dentists the NMC have always stated this but clarified their guidance so any perceived grey areas are no longer there. There needs to be a face to face consultation before the prescription gets written. The script is sent to the pharmacy and when dispensed it can be administered, yes unfortunately you will be charged for the consultation, but the price varies.

mrmeanor

Hi. I am planning on starting a career in medical aesthetics: mainly botox, dermal fillers, chemical peels etc.
I have no experience in beauty therapy and I'm neither a doctor, dentist or nurse.
What is the quickest way to become legally qualified in this area of field?
I am prepared to study for however long it takes me but i don't want to start a course that will take 4 years when it can be achieved in 2.
Any suggestions i will greatly appreciate..