Kleeneze

Caroline73_2

steam_dan wrote: »

You may consider it to be "over-priced tat" but my customers would disagree with you as a large number of them buy from me every single month so are clearly happy with the value and quality of the products and the friendly personal service that I provide.

You've only been doing it 8 weeks - so how can they buy from you every single month? 8 weeks isn't even 2 months.

steam_dan

Antispam wrote: »

Kleezene=over priced

Dont be taking in with the spiel that distributions give you for making money, for many it does not work

It doesn't work for those people who are not prepared to work. End of. People expect to be successful overnight and it ain't gonna happen. Work hard and believe you will succeed and you will succeed no matter how long it takes.

steam_dan

Caroline73 wrote: »

You've only been doing it 8 weeks - sow can they buy from you every single month. 8 weeks isn't even 2 months.

OK. That's fair comment. I can't argue with that. I have visited some customers 3 times now and received orders from some of these each time. All I know is my income is rising each month and this is spurring on to work harder. People do buy from Kleeneze regularly, if they didn't then Kleeneze would not have been successful for as long as it has (since 1923 in fact) and as a network marketing company since 1970. It is one of the few companies whose turnover is actually growing at the moment.

Antispam

Yes I agree but this isnt a proper business and you been at it for 8 weeks I wonder if you will be at it for a year or more

Ironic its sold to people as a get rich scheme, the reality is some what different, we all could do with making extra few bob, however the flaw in that plan is most of us are trying to cut back and you can get the same products from poundshops, Wilkinsons, home bargains for far less.

steam_dan wrote: »

It doesn't work for those people who are not prepared to work. End of. People expect to be successful overnight and it ain't gonna happen. Work hard and believe you will succeed and you will succeed no matter how long it takes.

Antispam

What its increasing my how much you dont say. I wonder if it will continue to do so in weeks/months ahead

I wait with baited breathe. I know ones in my area you never see them again, I wonder why, perhaps because they are lied and or or fed up with hardly making anything

If you need to have an extra income, get a bar job/pizza delivery dont waste your time selling crap to vulnerable people, who can get the goods cheaper else where as I said poundshop, wilkinsons

steam_dan wrote: »

OK. That's fair comment. I can't argue with that. I have visited some customers 3 times now and received orders from some of these each time. All I know is my income is rising each month and this is spurring on to work harder. People do buy from Kleeneze regularly, if they didn't then Kleeneze would not have been successful for as long as it has (since 1923 in fact) and as a network marketing company since 1970. It is one of the few companies whose turnover is actually growing at the moment.

steam_dan

savemoney wrote: »

Really

I make it my business not to be disturbed at home either by phone or cold calling/catalogues

I very much welcome cold calling and rubbish like this to be banned because many of you do not read the notice. I tried leaving catalogues on door it doesn't work, why because many of you give up because you are lied to about how much you will make, you are lied to that its your business, it is not your business as some of you say, you have no say in how much you charge goods or what goes in the catalogue

If people put notices at the door for no sales, then dont go its that simply. I dont want this rubbish, my home is my castle I dont want anyone selling me anything end of

PS I have an official sign from Trading standards not a home printed one.

Oh and I even contacted your company to ask for this rubbish to stop, they dont give a stuff because all they are interested in is getting as many people to sign up and sell in your area

As I see it you should be taking issue with those people with the signs up who then buy from me and other distributors. If they didn't buy from us then we would know that we would be wasting our time putting a catalogue through these doors including yours. As it stands people with signs up do buy from us and we are building a business and I for one am willing to risk a catalogue here and there being thrown in the bin in order to achieve this. I am never rude to anyone and always polite, even when they tell me that they have thrown the catalogue in the bin. I don't need to force my catalogues on anyone to make a living.

We are not villains, scam artists or even sales people. We are not even cold-callers. We don't stand on your doorstep with one foot in the door refusing to go away until you buy something or sign on the dotted line. You choose to look at the catalogue or not. Noone is forcing you to. Throw it in the bin if you want. I really don't care. I am doing this to earn extra money in my spare time and I have customers who value the service that I provide to them. I am doing well in my business in a very short space of time because I am devoting a large amount of time to my customers and I am determined to succeed. If people choose not to buy from me and don't want to receive my catalogue they only have to tell me. I will respond politely and cross them off my distribution list. I am not in this to upset people. I am earning an honest buck to support my family and provide a more stable future for us. I am sorry if your local distributor has ignored your request not to receive catalogues, I can't understand for the life of me why he would do this. I would rather not put a catalogue through the door of someone I know is not going to buy from me and put it through another door where I might get an order.

People give up not because they are lied to about how much they can earn but because they think that they will earn £250 a month straight away by just doing 2 or 3 hours a week and others feel demeaned or embarrassed by the idea of putting out catalogues for a living. I am a worker, I need to earn extra money and as long as what I am doing is legal and moral and giving me the extra income I need I really don't care what I do. they used to call this "The Dunkirk Spirit". This is perfect for me as I can decide my own hours, where to drop my catalogues and even determine my own income by working harder for longer hours and nobody tells me what to do, or when I can or can't have time off to go on holiday etc. (sounds like a business to me).

You know nothing about the circumstances of the people that have decided to do this. Have you stopped to think that they may have been made redundant and unable to find work elsewhere due to the current economic climate. Do you really want to ban catalogues through doors and deprive these people of perhaps the only opportunity they can find to support their families and keep a roof over their heads?

savemoney

No dont put the blame on others your the one who said they buy from you, how many is that I wonder? You only been at it for 8 weeks give it time.

I got a official notice I cant help if if some of you are unable or arrogant to understand the concept, I dont want you to your rubbish in my door, why is that so hard for you to understand. I also get this from double glazing they think it somehow doesn't apply to them. Dont be afraid to get an unwelcome message from me if you put your crap through my door, its unwanted

Dont tell me about being unemployed or looking for extra work I done that but I dont choose to harass people at there door step selling over price tat

You put catalogues through my door they go in one place the bin or my log burner.

I spent to much of my time in the past chasing people like you down the street giving catalogues back or leaving it for weeks at my door step

I never claim I know anything about others but you presume just because I have a notice and a official one not to buy at door that some how gives you the right to shove your catalogue through my door, it doesn't give you any rights at all, however I now have teh right to do as I will with it which I do and always will

I would have no issue with this scam of a company if they at least and its people respected people's wishes on no cold calling or unwanted material through there door, they dont, hence why I hope cold calling and such is banned

steam_dan wrote: »

As I see it you should be taking issue with those people with the signs up who then buy from me and other distributors. If they didn't buy from us then we would know that we would be wasting our time putting a catalogue through these doors including yours. As it stands people with signs up do buy from us and we are building a business and I for one am willing to risk a catalogue here and there being thrown in the bin in order to achieve this. I am never rude to anyone and always polite, even when they tell me that they have thrown the catalogue in the bin. I don't need to force my catalogues on anyone to make a living.

We are not villains, scam artists or even sales people. We are not even cold-callers. We don't stand on your doorstep with one foot in the door refusing to go away until you buy something or sign on the dotted line. You choose to look at the catalogue or not. Noone is forcing you to. Throw it in the bin if you want. I really don't care. I am doing this to earn extra money in my spare time and I have customers who value the service that I provide to them. I am doing well in my business in a very short space of time because I am devoting a large amount of time to my customers and I am determined to succeed. If people choose not to buy from me and don't want to receive my catalogue they only have to tell me. I will respond politely and cross them off my distribution list. I am not in this to upset people. I am earning an honest buck to support my family and provide a more stable future for us. I am sorry if your local distributor has ignored your request not to receive catalogues, I can't understand for the life of me why he would do this. I would rather not put a catalogue through the door of someone I know is not going to buy from me and put it through another door where I might get an order.

People give up not because they are lied to about how much they can earn but because they think that they will earn £250 a month straight away by just doing 2 or 3 hours a week and others feel demeaned or embarrassed by the idea of putting out catalogues for a living. I am a worker, I need to earn extra money and as long as what I am doing is legal and moral and giving me the extra income I need I really don't care what I do. they used to call this "The Dunkirk Spirit". This is perfect for me as I can decide my own hours, where to drop my catalogues and even determine my own income by working harder for longer hours and nobody tells me what to do, or when I can or can't have time off to go on holiday etc. (sounds like a business to me).

You know nothing about the circumstances of the people that have decided to do this. Have you stopped to think that they may have been made redundant and unable to find work elsewhere due to the current economic climate. Do you really want to ban catalogues through doors and deprive these people of perhaps the only opportunity they can find to support their families and keep a roof over their heads?

steam_dan

It is not your business how much I earn. Suffice to say that I am happy with the extra income that it is giving me and with the rate that that income is growing. The amount is not important as what I consider satisfactory you might consider derisory and vice-versa.

Kleeneze is not a job it is a business and I have met people, real people from working class backgrounds who are earning in excess of £5,000 a month after doing it for just 2 or 3 years and I am going to be among them in 2 years time and sack the boss.

Show me a pizza delivery job that gives me that kind of income potential and I'll show you a flying elephant!

Selling to vulnerable people! We put a catalog through a door. Noone forces anyone to look at it or even buy from it. I resent the implication that we are some sort of villains. You are also doing all of my customers a disservice. All of my customers are intelligent people and are perfectly capable of making the decision whether to buy or not and whether they are happy to pay the advertised price.

People give up because they run a part-time business 12 hours a week for 7 weeks and think that they have been doing Kleeneze for 7 weeks. They haven't, 12 hours is the equivalent to a day's work. Therefore 7 weeks means that they have been doing Kleeneze for 7 days not 7 weeks. How much would you expect a business to grow in 7 days?

Antispam wrote: »

What its increasing my how much you dont say. I wonder if it will continue to do so in weeks/months ahead

I wait with baited breathe. I know ones in my area you never see them again, I wonder why, perhaps because they are lied and or or fed up with hardly making anything

If you need to have an extra income, get a bar job/pizza delivery dont waste your time selling crap to vulnerable people, who can get the goods cheaper else where as I said poundshop, wilkinsons

nexuss

steam_dan wrote: »

Kleeneze is not a job it is a business and I have met people, real people from working class backgrounds who are earning in excess of £5,000 a month after doing it for just 2 or 3 years and I am going to be among them in 2 years time and sack the boss.

Show me a pizza delivery job that gives me that kind of income potential and I'll show you a flying elephant!

He meant pizza delivery or bar work was guaranteed money unlike the 'pie in the sky' garbage spouted off by kleeneze and betterware.The stuff in the catalogues is available much cheaper elsewhere.There is only a handful of people making good money through kleeneze or betterware based on the hours they put in.They basically look for mugs to sell there garbage to householders who are now aware what such garbage it really is.

BargainGalore

Yes looks sadly like Dan is one of them he really has fallen for the spiel

nexuss wrote: »

He meant pizza delivery or bar work was guaranteed money unlike the 'pie in the sky' garbage spouted off by kleeneze and betterware.The stuff in the catalogues is available much cheaper elsewhere.There is only a handful of people making good money through kleeneze or betterware based on the hours they put in.They basically look for mugs to sell there garbage to householders who are now aware what such garbage it really is.