OMG... Arsey neighbour and sattelite dish on party (?) wall....

MORPH3US

macman wrote: »

No, because none of that higher section is 'on your side'. It's adjoining fresh airspace that is not owned or shared by anyone.
Yes, you can do minor party wall works inside, such as putting up a shelf (or, indeed, a sat dish). But that section is not a party wall.
By your logic, if your neighbour had, say, a rear extension built out on the same line as the internal party wall, you could attach a dish to that?

Think you missed my point (maybe I wasn't clear so apologies)....

If the wall is astride the boundary then it is a party wall. If my neighbour built a rear extansion then they would build it up to the boundary not astride it.

macman

MORPH3US wrote: »

Think you missed my point (maybe I wasn't clear so apologies)....

If the wall is astride the boundary then it is a party wall. If my neighbour built a rear extansion then they would build it up to the boundary not astride it.

No, I was envisaging a situation where the extension already existed on the boundary and you bolted a dish to it on your side.
I am saying that the area in question is not a party wall, and not subject to the Party Wall Act. If you refer to p7 of the PDF you posted up:

Only the part of the wall that does the separating is "party" - sections on either side or above are not "party".

AdrianW2

macman wrote: »

No, I was envisaging a situation where the extension already existed on the boundary and you bolted a dish to it on your side.
I am saying that the area in question is not a party wall, and not subject to the Party Wall Act.

But if the OP erected a lean to conservatory against the wall it would become a party wall?

...and presumably he could then put his satellite dish in the conservatory!

macman

AdrianW2 wrote: »

But if the OP erected a lean to conservatory against the wall it would become a party wall?

...and presumably he could then put his satellite dish in the conservatory!

Subject to complying with the act's provisions, yes. Are you suggesting the OP builds a small conservatory on the roof?
Please see amendment to my last post which I hope clarifies things.

MORPH3US

AdrianW2 wrote: »

But if the OP erected a lean to conservatory against the wall it would become a party wall?

...and presumably he could then put his satellite dish in the conservatory!

Not a bad idea, shouldn't even need planning permission for a conservatory 3 feet x 3 feet

27col

You have a cheek expecting to use someone else's wall to mount your satellite dish. If there is a suitable bracket available to mount the dish elsewhere then surely it is up to the installation man to obtain one and not just to take the easiest way out. Especially if it involves using someone else's property.

naomig

Who cares what the legalities of it are. At the end of the day you will need to ask yourself if you would like to live next to good neighbours or would you prefer, what can easily become a nasty and stressful feud. Deep down inside, I think you know that what you did was wrong, so, if I were you, I would instruct the engineer to remove the dish, fill out any holes properly and fit it on the back of your garden. At the same time, swallow your pride; go over to your neighbour's house with a bottle of wine and say sorry. It’s the right thing to do, not so difficult and will probably save you and your neighbour years of stress.

Zoetoes

This may well be a stupid question but......... why does it need to be a different bracket to go on the back of the house? Aren't they the same bricks?

tbw

naomig wrote: »

Who cares what the legalities of it are. At the end of the day you will need to ask yourself if you would like to live next to good neighbours or would you prefer, what can easily become a nasty and stressful feud. Deep down inside, I think you know that what you did was wrong, so, if I were you, I would instruct the engineer to remove the dish, fill out any holes properly and fit it on the back of your garden. At the same time, swallow your pride; go over to your neighbour's house with a bottle of wine and say sorry. It’s the right thing to do, not so difficult and will probably save you and your neighbour years of stress.

What a sensible - and obvious - solution ! You don't want this to escalate (if you ever want to sell your house you will have to disclose any ongoing feud with the neighbours - quite apart from the hassle you will get yourself if you don't sort this out pdq!)

Take naomigs advice and fall on you neighbours mercy (making sure not to drop the nice bottle of wine you will hopefully be carrying).

vaio

macman wrote: »

No, I was envisaging a situation where the extension already existed on the boundary and you bolted a dish to it on your side.
I am saying that the area in question is not a party wall, and not subject to the Party Wall Act. If you refer to p7 of the PDF you posted up:

Only the part of the wall that does the separating is "party" - sections on either side or above are not "party".

You are right if and only if the wall is built entirely on the neighbour’s land. In this case the bits which are actually separating are party and the rest is not.

If the wall is astride the boundary between the two properties then the whole thing is party