Property Snakes and Ladders; 2009

dopester

The Bristol couple's listed property-development is, I think...

66 Park Road, Stapleton, Bristol. BS16 1AU

houseprices.co.uk

Sale date: 30/07/2007
£300,000

dopester

The address was on the show.

4oD Catchup Property Ladder

Pause on 19:18, expand view, letter in hand, Bristol City Council, Notice of Decision... address just about visible.

Even at £300K, they seem to have set the ceiling-price for their own road, for sales that have taken place and recorded on Land Registry since year 2000. 10 houses sold, including their own.

Snooze

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl:

I don't have many mod cons. I've never had a dishwasher or tumble dryer. In Spain I don't even have a microwave.

I had to ask someone how to use the dishwasher in the house we stayed at ....:o

It was great. But don't you have to have a lot of crockery?!

Loved the oast house, the design is just how I would have done it, terrific.

My traditional village house in Spain has a downstairs kitchen (originally a stable!) and first floor living room (and remains of bread oven ). I like it, it's easy to just shut the kitchen away from the rest of the house if you don't want to clear up straight away.

Tell me more!

(I'm in the UK at the moment (normally live in Spain) and I'm really enjoying all the house programmes. I don't have access to them in Spain. My favourites are Grand Designs, Property Snakes and Ladders and Homes Under the Hammer. So I'm getting my fix before I return to rural Andalucia!).

Nope. Never been an Estate Agent.

Last worked in Town Planning for eight years, early retired and living in southern Spain since 2004.

Absolutely.

My house in the Uk has, at the moment , downstairs, a sitting room and dining room.

We are going to make a few changes so that it has two sitting rooms as that will suit the occupancy better. The fact that one room has up until now been used as a dining room is not written in stone.

My Spanish house was advertised as having four bedrooms when we bought it. We have taken out the dividing walls of one, added walls somewhere else, so it still has the four rooms but now I would say it has two bedrooms, a study and a bedsit.

Adaptable Space.

Hi seven-day-weekend, please tell us more about your house in Spain. It sounds awesome!!!!!

Thanks.

Rob

bluey890

dopester wrote: »

Again, both couples tonight already owned their own homes already. The older couple being Paul Clayton (a psychologist) and wife Karen, (a telecoms manager).

Why does nearly every muppet think they are property-developers to sell at a whacking great profit?

Before the credit crunch, a lot of 'muppets' made money from property developing.
Kermit and Miss Piggy certainly did.

My point is that some seem to get greater enjoyment in seeing others fail than seeing them succeed.
This is trait I don't comprehend.

I am not sure I am going to 'fit in' on this thread.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

bluey890 wrote: »

Before the credit crunch, a lot of 'muppets' made money from property developing.
Kermit and Miss Piggy certainly did.

My point is that some seem to get greater enjoyment in seeing others fail than seeing them succeed.
This is one trait I don't comprehend.

I am not sure I am going to 'fit in' on this thread.

Of course it's more entertaining to see people with no knowledge or experience of a business, actively choosing to ignore professional advice from those with plenty of knowledge and experience, and consequently failing miserably in their pig-headed delusional surge towards easy money. Especially if it features visually amusing comedic highlights involving people's personal taste for decor.

kennyboy66_2

bluey890 wrote: »

My point is that some seem to get greater enjoyment in seeing others fail than seeing them succeed.

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It would seem that it the only enjoyment that some on here get.

After years of rightly slating those who boasted of a property 'empire', the same people can't control their braying now it turns to dust.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Chris2685

dopester wrote: »

He might have been a candidate if he'd not pulled back from the edge last year, and bought that house at £220K with homebuy-scheme to "help" him do it.

Chris has smartened up, but to be fair, I think even Beeny might have been a bit stumped for ideas with that place of his. It's on a new listing now, but if he'd bought it at £220K, with Beeny overseeing any spending improvements at all.... that could have easily been car-crash television.

lol, thanks for bringing that up... It has been under offer so many times now, I think there must be some kind of structural problem or the banks just won't lend on it or something...

dopester

bluey890 wrote: »

Before the credit crunch, a lot of 'muppets' made money from property developing.
Kermit and Miss Piggy certainly did.

My point is that some seem to get greater enjoyment in seeing others fail than seeing them succeed.
This is one trait I don't comprehend.

I am not sure I am going to 'fit in' on this thread.

As someone who isn't prepared to risk his savings / getting a mortgage on a FTB house because house-prices tripled in just 10 years and they are so EXPENSIVE, I do welcome a return to TV progs showing that not everyone wins by GAMBLING on property.

That is what I cheer. Too many people with a mindset that they can leverage and buy more and more property, or buy one, do it up, and sell it on at a whacking profit - no matter what the incredibly expensive initial purchase price.

During the boom when they successfully did sell them on at ever higher price, the higher price paid pushed up the values of surrounding property.. even all homes which aren't for sale. That is how markets work.

Those prudent people got greedy. Many in that show, have been doing very well for themselves already... like the older couple, with 2 incomes and a home, which had most likely ballooned in value during their ownership. I'm not going to wish success on stupidity and on greed and on those who gamble so much.

What is wrong with wanting more people who are amateurs to get a measure of risk-to-return before they leap into projects which have huge risks?

Example.. listed buildings where they have next-to-no-experience or knowledge, where huge sums on money are involved... and where they expect they can only win, because property only goes up in value.

SingleSue

I have a large kitchen complete with kitchen table (big old pine farmhouse type thing)....it is a kitchen although it would probably be described as a kitchen diner.

My parents have a room which during our lives has been called various things, ever changing as the family has grown up. It was the living room, the back room, the music room, the dance room, the dining room and now it's present incarnation is as the place where the laptop lives/dining room.

They also have a kitchen which is large enough to have a table....it's a kitchen. A kitchen isn't a proper kitchen without a table, it's just a kitchen area otherwise.

One of their front bedrooms has at times been the spare room, my parents bedroom (when they were decorating), spare room again, brother's bedroom, spare room again, the computer room and now is a weird mix of spare room/computer room (minus the pc screen as I have 'borrowed' it), study and general book store area. The back bedroom has been the spare room, mine and my brothers room, mine and my sisters room (would you believe that I have only had my own bedroom in the last few years, have always shared up until then!), my sister's room, spare back bedroom and is now the back bedroom(spare)/playroom for the grandkids.

Means lots of space if we need to stay over after Christmas/New year!

The front room has always been the front room, never the lounge (I had a lounge once...only called the lounge as it was at the back of the house, now I have a front room because it is at the front of the house).

Onto the programme, I love period houses and love to see the features in situ and at times last night I sat there wincing at some of the plans...and wincing even more at the amount of money being spent (I can't help being stingy and thinking of 10k as a lot of money).

The parking to me was a no brainer..what family would want to buy a house with a busy road out the front and no parking?

I also didn't get the £1,500 per week comment at the end.

bluey890

dopester wrote: »

As someone who isn't prepared to risk his savings / getting a mortgage on a FTB house because house-prices tripled in just 10 years and they are so EXPENSIVE, I do welcome a return to TV progs showing that not everyone wins by GAMBLING on property.

Are you the guy in yellow dopester?

I have posted the cartoon elsewhere, but thought this thread would appreciate it too.