Tesco and their alcohol policy!

Batchy

so to summarise

either take ID when purchasing alcohol, if you don't have ID make urself scarce!
AND,
don't take the kids, leave them somewhere else ... unsupervised so they probably get abducted before your family party/ barbeque, makes for a more chilled atmosphere, while everyone is wrecked no one will notice anyway.

or just go to pub and buy beer... they serve anyone now, since they are fast running out of customers since supermarkets dont seem to care about losing money on alcohol sales.

The real problem is supermarkets dont want you to go there to buy beer ONLY as they lose money on beer sales.

they want you to buy ur weekly shopping with a case of beer thrown in too.

FairyElephant_2

The chap in front of me was refused a bottle of wine in Sainsbury's the other day, and I felt very sorry for him - he had a load of other (food) shopping, was wearing a wedding-ring, and had car keys, and I think he looked at least 25 and was quite respectably dressed.
I appreciate that underage drinking needs to be stopped, but things have gone rather over-the-top at the moment. I felt quite angry for him, as he was obviously embarrassed at being thought too young.

I don't shop at Sainsbury's very often, as they are too expensive, but was quite appalled at the attitude of the cashier, so probably will even less now!

Idiophreak

When I was growing up, there were plenty of schemes around to get you cheap (if not free) ID if you didn't drive. Can't believe there aren't any now.

I firmly believe all shops should use a "no ID, no booze" policy, however old you might be.

It's the only way we're going to remove the stigma from getting ID'd and make it a habit for SAs.

OxJak

If I was to take my one-year old daughter to said supermarket, would they refuse to serve me alcohol? (I'm nearly 30 [and with plenty of grey hair!], so presumably wouldn't be ID'd myself). What about when she's 2? 3? When could I (un)reasonably be expected to be in a position to give it to her?

I wasn't aware about the bit of the law that makes it illegal to sell to someone who may be buying for someone else, but surely if it's legal for children to drink in their own home from the age of 5(?) then why can they not be with me in the supermarket when I buy it for them?

Once again, the law is the a$$, not the checkout staff...

DCodd

Idiophreak wrote: »

When I was growing up, there were plenty of schemes around to get you cheap (if not free) ID if you didn't drive. Can't believe there aren't any now.

I firmly believe all shops should use a "no ID, no booze" policy, however old you might be.

It's the only way we're going to remove the stigma from getting ID'd and make it a habit for SAs.

But it is the ID itself I have a problem with! you are advocating something that only used to be legaly required under marshal law, to become a requirement!

I used to have long and heated discussions with my Granddad about the state of "things today". He always was a pains to remind me that millions of people died in the second world war to enable future generations to be free, move freely and make a free and personal choice!

It has stuck with me and I will fight for these values always. even small errosions of these principles IMHO are unacceptable. But I am OLD and GRUMPY:p

DrScotsman

DCodd wrote: »

But it is the ID itself I have a problem with! you are advocating something that only used to be legaly required under marshal law, to become a requirement!

I used to have long and heated discussions with my Granddad about the state of "things today". He always was a pains to remind me that millions of people died in the second world war to enable future generations to be free, move freely and make a free and personal choice!

It has stuck with me and I will fight for these values always. even small errosions of these principles IMHO are unacceptable. But I am OLD and GRUMPY:p

Um, what?

While we call it ID, in terms of principles, when used for buying alcohol and cigarettes it ISN'T "Identification", it's just proof of age. And in fact unless I'm mistaken there is no legal requirement for any supermarket to ask for ID, the legal requirement is that no one sells alcohol/etc. to children under 18. How do we stop that? Just so happens the best way is ID! At no point have YOUR freedoms been eroded by the government or the law.

Idiophreak

DCodd wrote: »

But it is the ID itself I have a problem with! you are advocating something that only used to be legaly required under marshal law, to become a requirement!

Not to be pedantic, but it seems the *law* here is what you have a problem with, not the ID. The ID is just a way of enforcing the law.

It's similar to speed cameras - a lot of people say they have a problem with speed cameras - what they mean is they have a problem with the speed limits.

Helix

OxJak wrote: »

If I was to take my one-year old daughter to said supermarket, would they refuse to serve me alcohol? (I'm nearly 30 [and with plenty of grey hair!], so presumably wouldn't be ID'd myself). What about when she's 2? 3? When could I (un)reasonably be expected to be in a position to give it to her?

I wasn't aware about the bit of the law that makes it illegal to sell to someone who may be buying for someone else, but surely if it's legal for children to drink in their own home from the age of 5(?) then why can they not be with me in the supermarket when I buy it for them?

Once again, the law is the a$$, not the checkout staff...

Its generally when to people are around the same age and under 25 that ID is required from everyone who is at the checkout. So its unlikely you would even encounter that situation but there are the odd few that will interpret that rule wrongly and refuse to serve you. If they do though then they need re-training.

davetrousers

It isn't a crime to give a child alcohol in your own home. So if a parent bought alcohol and had a 12 year old with them it shouldn't be an issue

DCodd

DrScotsman wrote: »

Um, what?

While we call it ID, in terms of principles, when used for buying alcohol and cigarettes it ISN'T "Identification", it's just proof of age. And in fact unless I'm mistaken there is no legal requirement for any supermarket to ask for ID, the legal requirement is that no one sells alcohol/etc. to children under 18. How do we stop that? Just so happens the best way is ID! At no point have YOUR freedoms been eroded by the government or the law.

Its personaly identifiable information, to prove your age you have to prove it you! It may not be officialy ID but it is ID, its the BullS**t of "if you have nothing to hide" ideal again!