Tesco and their alcohol policy!

JoeyG

roguetrooper74 wrote: »

As with people saying about passing on to a minor, the law is 'knowingly' selling alcohol/age restricted product to someone who is going to pass them onto a minor.

is this really a law?

if so then it belongs with those stupid American laws like 'it is illegal to wear a fake moustache that causes laughter in church'

and if it is somehow 'proven' then does it absolve the adult who bought the alcohol of responsibility? or are they both responsible?... I don't see the problem with making the adult who buys the alcohol and passes it to the child responsible, it works with most other restricted products, and doesn't rely on the 'crystal ball' factor.

danielanthony

Most places accept the Prove It card, I used to have one:

http://www.proveitid.co.uk/

DrScotsman

danielanthony wrote: »

Most places accept the Prove It card, I used to have one:

http://www.proveitid.co.uk/

Well I can tell you Sainsbury's won't

I know I've said it before in this topic, but Sainsbury's is UK Passport, UK DL (but again, my supervisors were okay with foreign ones). Anything else has to have the pass logo on it. Anyone from Tesco/Asda/etc. care to list their policies?

DCFC79

DrScotsman wrote: »

Well I can tell you Sainsbury's won't

I know I've said it before in this topic, but Sainsbury's is UK Passport, UK DL (but again, my supervisors were okay with foreign ones). Anything else has to have the pass logo on it. Anyone from Tesco/Asda/etc. care to list their policies?

and the citizen card is useable in sainsburys stores

dizziblonde

I'm not prepared to willingly submit to any ID scheme in order to be allowed to go do my weekly shopping - I see where it will lead to in terms of civil liberties and I'm not prepared to go down that road. I don't look 25 (tragically) so it's not likely to happen to me, but any store that tries it on won't be getting my custom again. I also refuse to carry my driving licence and passport (well that's expired and I've got minimal need for one at the moment so stuff paying what they're asking until I get a nice holiday in the sun drop into my lap) around on the offchance I might randomly need ID sometime. If the police want to see my driving documents - I'll happily respond to a producer and trot down to the station - but I really really object to the idea that we should be carrying around these things to be produced on demand. Like someone mentioned - people fought to defend the freedoms in this country and now we seem to be happily handing them over at the drop of a hat. THAT worries me.

Sharon87

I hated ID'ing when I was on checkouts at Asda. Just like I hate ID'ing people now at the cinema. Especially when you get the people who are in their 20s, but look younger (I'm one of these people, I'm 22 and always get ID'd for alcohol).

At Asda we could accept anything with a PASS logo on - Connexions Cards, Citizen Cards.etc

I think it's common sense, if you know you're going to buy age restricted products and you get ID'd or are around 25 or under, take some form of ID with you. I always keep my driving license in my purse. It's nothing to do with freedom, and you don't have to show ID on demand - unless you need to prove your age to buy an age restricted product.

Leebobs

I raised this question directly with the Department for Culture, Media and Sport (the department responsible for implementing the Licensing Act 2003), here is the response:

Thank you for your email of 18 December regarding the sale of alcohol to children.

As you may be aware, the Licensing Act 2003 devolved responsibility for the administration of the licensing regime to individual licensing authorities based at district and borough councils. It has also devolved its enforcement to those same authorities, together with responsible authorities such as the police and environmental health. Therefore I cannont comment on individual cases, but can offer general advice.

The protection of children from harm is one of the four objectives of the Licensing Act 2003, which came into force in November 2005 (the others are public safety, the prevention of crime and disorder and the prevention of public nuisance). Among the many provisions in the Act for protecting children from harm, we have introduced fixed penalty notices and instant fines for offences of selling and allowing the sale of alcohol to children, buying alcohol for consumption by children and the purchase or attempted purchase of alcohol by children.

I believe that the issue you refer to in your email concerns, to a certain extent, proxy purchasing where adults are buying alcohol on behalf of under-aged persons. This is difficult to enforce as there is no scope in the Act for test purchasing, and the main problem in tackling proxy purchasing is that in order to challenge, the proxy-buyer needs to be caught at the point that they hand the alcohol to the under-age person. This transaction does not always occur straight after the purchase of the alcohol, but sometimes a few hours or even days afterwards. Police forces are however aware of this issue and the powers available to them under the Act.

With regards to supermarket policy regarding the sale of alcohol, I understand that some stores have told their staff to “err on the side of caution” when interpreting the policy, leading to cases of parents out shopping with their children being told to put alcohol back on the shelves. I can only suggest that this is simply the supermarket's own internal policy on alcohol sales, and that as long as they are not breaching their licence, it is entirely up to them to operate in the manner they choose. There is nothing in the Act that prevents supermarkets from selling alcohol to anyone over 18.

I hope this information is helpful.

Yours sincerely

Ryan Cannon
Department for Culture Media and Sports

Straight from the horses mouth: "There is nothing in the Act that prevents supermarkets from selling alcohol to anyone over 18. "

broughy

DrScotsman wrote: »

Well I can tell you Sainsbury's won't

I know I've said it before in this topic, but Sainsbury's is UK Passport, UK DL (but again, my supervisors were okay with foreign ones). Anything else has to have the pass logo on it. Anyone from Tesco/Asda/etc. care to list their policies?

Morrisons is:

- driving license (has to be a full one, not provisional - don't even get me started on the lack of logic there, i did argue this with our checkout manager for a lonnnnnng time!)
- passport
- citizen card
- card with a PASS logo

sarahg1969

broughy wrote: »

Morrisons is:

- driving license (has to be a full one, not provisional - don't even get me started on the lack of logic there, i did argue this with our checkout manager for a lonnnnnng time!)
- passport
- citizen card
- card with a PASS logo

And I'll bet the passport has to be valid too!!! Like you suddenly become a different person once it expires!

before_hollywood

does it have to be a uk passport? or a uk driving license?

because i dont want to sound ignorant but could you spot a fake foreign passport or fake foreign driving license? i know i couldnt but its the only id that many foreign migrant workers have (including my ex boss)