Recruitment agencies

DCFC79

I used monster once but i found it was crap, the site was about as much use as a chocolate fireguard, reed is ok, there was an angency called matchtech who contatced me about a job (they got my details via a job a applied for via jobsite) and they gave me all the details about the job like where to go, who to see etc but when i got the the place and spoke to the woman i was to see the job i was apparently told about by the agency didnt exist,

CCFC_80

liney wrote: »

Because the Client companies don't want you calling and pestering them so ask their details to be confidential until such a time as they select persons for interview. They only want contact with applicants they are interested in.

Plus any Job Seeker worth half their salt will be applying for many more positions independently than an agency will put them forward for, so you providing the info makes more sense anyway.

Agencies do work. They do place people in temporary and permanent employment. If they did not then there wouldn't be so many doing business. If agencies don't work for you, and I agree there are some crappy ones which don't last long, but on the whole consider whether you would give a potential employer the attitude you give a consultant and decide why you are not being placed.

The reason why agencies do not reveal which companies they send your CV too is because they know that you will apply direct to the company yourself, which would be better for the company concerned as they would not pay the agency's introduction fee .

JoeyG

When I was out of work I must have signed up to about 40 or 50 agencies, the online ones are the easiest, doesnt take more than a few minutes to fill it in and upload the CV.

I think you just have to know how to take agencies... you have to accept they are working for the clients, not you... Part of my day always involved sifting through and deleting dozens of emails for unsuitable jobs, its easy to just say no if you're not interested, same with phone calls... One particularly pushy agent managed to line me up an interview with a client way outside my distance limit, I just dropped them an email shortly after the phonecall explaining I'd changed my mind and would not be attending the interview.

Of course I never relied on agencies... Once signed up I would contact all suitable local companies regularly with my CV and explaining my situation, its easy to build up a list!... Some soon got fed up of hearing from me and told me to f*%£ off, others would tell me to get back to them in 6 months, and the rest were obviously quite happy for me to hassle them.

jessbob

secretspender wrote: »

I'm a recruitment consultant and I HATE it.:rolleyes:but its a job

I've had my pay dropped and my hours increased. I had 120 temps out six months ago, now I have 13. I have my manager on my back every two minutes to phone clients to squeeze jobs out of them - but there are none at all. The clients get sick of the phone calls.

I must get about 60 CVs in my inbox everyday, god knows how many walking through the door.

Pointless post really, sorry, but yes we are useless:rolleyes:

Thanks for your honesty !!

At least you admit to the failing of the recruitment agencies. I just wish they would not appear to make up jobs that don't exist just to get your CV and info on where you had been applying. I don't tell them where I have applied unless they ring and offer an interview at a firm who already have my cv

Don't rely on them in any event.

liney

andy46 wrote: »

The reason why agencies do not reveal which companies they send your CV too is because they know that you will apply direct to the company yourself, which would be better for the company concerned as they would not pay the agency's introduction fee .

I don't want to dissapoint you, but once your CV has been sent to the company they are liable to pay the agency a fee if they engage you, even if you apply direct afterwards. It's part of the terms and conditions agreed between parties.

jessbob

liney wrote: »

I don't want to dissapoint you, but once your CV has been sent to the company they are liable to pay the agency a fee if they engage you, even if you apply direct afterwards. It's part of the terms and conditions agreed between parties.

What if one of the agencies sent your cv to a firm, even though you had told them you had already applied direct to the firm with no agency involved?

Justicia

jessbob wrote: »

What if one of the agencies sent your cv to a firm, even though you had told them you had already applied direct to the firm with no agency involved?

I would expect that the companies own recruitment tracking/paper-trail would clearly indicate which application arrived first.

Previously, when I was in recruitment (not agency), we just refused to respond to any agencies that were not one of the few that we dealt with (that were kept on a very tight leash) and ignored all other attempted correspondance, ie. e-mails with 'cut and pasted' candidate experience details, etc., so mostly avoiding that issue.

On the one occassion that I can recall receiving a CV from one of the contracted agencies that we had already received direct from the candidates themselves, our database clearly showed the date that it was first received and as the second CV was forwarded by e-mail and therefore dated, there was no argument that could be made - although they did try...

jessbob

Good ! thought it was a bit naughty of them when they said they would put me through as a referral, even though I told them I have applied direct after noticing there were vacancies on the firms website.

CCFC_80

liney wrote: »

I don't want to dissapoint you, but once your CV has been sent to the company they are liable to pay the agency a fee if they engage you, even if you apply direct afterwards. It's part of the terms and conditions agreed between parties.

Hmmm - Are you saying then that all agencies have to ask your permission to send out your cv to a particular company ???. Last year on 2 occasions 2 different agencies got me interviews with companies outside my travelling area which I could have saved them time if they called me beforehand. I was led to believe that when you register with an agency they can send your cv to any employer unless it is an employer that you have specified that you do not want to work for.
Also If I was to be able to apply to an employer direct and not through the agency and taken on, I do not believe that the company HR dept would collaberate with the agency that I was taken on direct with them

liney

jessbob wrote: »

What if one of the agencies sent your cv to a firm, even though you had told them you had already applied direct to the firm with no agency involved?

The agency would not be entitled to a "Finders Fee" because they didn't find you. That also, as I stated previously, is a very good reason to ask candidates where they have applied themselves in order to save confusing and possible embarassment.