REMO-Reciprocal Enforcement of Maintenance Order

jo_d_3

Hi,
I am just about to try and get maintenance out of my very soon to be Ex who has moved to Australia.
Has anyone tried to get money out of someone from Oz before? I know he will not agree to pay maintenance off his own back because he has been quite happy to not pay me anything towards anything for the past 8 months now. It is a good job I managed to get a job so I can keep a roof over our kids heads.
He would not even agree to sign a piece or paper to reduce our mortgage payments to help me out a little, that is why I think I will need to go down the official route. Even though he claims he has no job.
Plus need to lose my association with him before he runs my credit rating to the ground.
Any advice would be great as it seems a complete minefield.

Thanks

EclipsedMind

twirlie wrote: »

I'm probably being very nieve, however your whole story confuses me. Ireland and the UK are both part of the Hague Convention

Confuses me too as last update (june?) I read said Ex's application had been rejected with poster attending court in Ireland and as I understood it at the time he had a hague convention case in progress.

My personal situation is that I am a father and have spent years in court and eventually my DD was ordered to reside with me. I never once missed a maintenance payment to the witch that stopped me seeing my daughter. I will not punish my child because of her mother or use money as a weapon.

I now help other fathers in court in my free time and at my own expense with issues and I am helping on a leave to remove case at the moment where the father was domestically abused (something feminist groups claim does not happen despite 40% of abuse being against men).

I will say when fighting for contact there is a risk of forgetting why you are fighting and getting too involved in the fight and the hatred of your adversary. Family law is about the children's best interests/welfare and only looks at the parents interests insofar as they impact upon the child's.

In your position, as twirlie picked up on and posted, I would be saving to help my child in later life when they are grown up and can understand what happened and why dad could not see them. That advice was based on the assumption you were not paying maintenance now and not having contact due to child abduction.

I generally find the argument fallacious that you should not provide for your children because of the Ex's actions. If you win the case then the children will come to you and the money you set aside can be used to improve your family life. You will also be able to pursue ex for maintenance - I bet she will think that is unfair just like you do now.

If you lose then you will be compelled to provide for the children by the law (if you don't think its fair lobby government). In your case even in a losing position I can't see a court awarding no contact at all although economic considerations may limit it.

Yes it sucks to have your ex unilaterally take the kids away. However the kids still need feeding etc and if you did not pay who should? Would you prefer they starve, have no clothes etc to punish your ex for her actions?

You can argue around the comparative morality of the situation loads and from multiple angles but the bottom line is the children's welfare needs to be maintained and in the first instance that is the parents responsibility. The law tries to get both parents to provide as if they were still together.

Personally I think family law and the CSA are flawed in the implementation although not necessarily in the aspirations and I have joined in lobbying for change. If only all who state its unfair did the same ...

Apologies for going off topic.

EM

HoneyNutLoop

Excellent post EM, which happens to very eloquently articulate my own point of view.

Petchie74

Hi

Any advice would be appreciated. Just contacted a solicitor today to make a Remo order against my ex. I am in NIreland and he is in Southern Ireland. he hasnt paid maintenance for 10 years but is a massive farmer. Any help to recoup some money or any money for maintenance would be a big help. Thanks x

Denkez

Hi guys right i have only come across this thread. I have been pursuing my ex who is italian through REMO for 2 years (i am in the UK) My ex works for p and o yes a british company but i am informed i cannot get him through CSA as he does not have a NI number. Now after 3 attempts at service in italy all which have failed the first and second they sat on it and didnt act on the dates i gave them he is at home only two months and they apparently have 3 to serve him!!!!! I am being passed from pillar to post after originally being told it was free i had to pay out £180 for translation of papers. Nobody is giving me answers ive asked why he cant be served at work after all the failed attempts but this isnt possible apparently as then it wouldnt be REMO.
The annoying thing out of all this is he works for a british company although he doesnt get paid in pounds (euros) and from the italian office it obviously comes from the british company as that is who he works for. He earns a lot at least 4000 euro a month and not a penny for his daughter!!
Can ANYONE help or suggest anything that has gone through this nobody is willing to help me and they want me to give up i l ow but i am NOT ive waited 2 years already i am going to carry on!
Thank you

kittiecat

jo_d wrote: »

Hi,
I am just about to try and get maintenance out of my very soon to be Ex who has moved to Australia.
Has anyone tried to get money out of someone from Oz before? I know he will not agree to pay maintenance off his own back because he has been quite happy to not pay me anything towards anything for the past 8 months now. It is a good job I managed to get a job so I can keep a roof over our kids heads.
He would not even agree to sign a piece or paper to reduce our mortgage payments to help me out a little, that is why I think I will need to go down the official route. Even though he claims he has no job.
Plus need to lose my association with him before he runs my credit rating to the ground.
Any advice would be great as it seems a complete minefield.

Thanks

Hi, I'm trying for child support from Australia, I have just been granted my court order stating my ex must pay me, the monthly amount he is due & the back payments he has missed. The court here is now meant to be sending it onto Australia for the court to enforce over there.
It has been a LONG battle to get to this point with him trying to hide so I could not get the Writ served on him. The court officers over there were great we found him ;-) even if I had to become detective to track him down!!
This has been a very lonely experience, there is so little on the internet about uk parents seeking support from Oz. I read on a forum to treat this as a hobby so it does not consume your life, that is good advice, its also been my therapy for years of abuse by him :-)

flossy123

Hi all I wanted to share my experiences too and hope for any advice or tips because sometimes i feel like im banging my head against a brick wall.
I sent an email to REMO and they took nearly 2 years to reply....
so I sent all the info I had to my local magistrates court, copy of spanish court order copy of national id card and current address phone number.
I then had a reply from a different court telling me as the court order is from spain and he resides in spain there was nothing they could do?????
Got on to REMO again and think I now have the correct form which a lovely lady from my local court asked me to send her so she could even see if it was the right form?????
Anyone got a link for the form i need?

It sound like most of you are a little further along than me, here nobody even knows REMO exists
Good luck all.

zoemads

I know this is an old thread but would appreciate some advice...

I have been trying to get CS from ex husband since 2011.

He lived in Hungary and then Germany.

I went through REMO, got a court order and sat and waited.

Due to lack of address the German courts closed the case.
They have now reopened it because I have sent them information that he has started working in Germany. He is living out of hotels so that he can't be found.

This man gave up work on purpose to go back packing around the world for a year. Staying in 5 star hotels.

Has bought a bike and a van.

Has gone on bike trips around Europe.

Flies back and forth to UK to visit family and occasionally to see daughter.

He has told my daughter.. Mum has sky TV how can she afford that if she is penniless. I have my money she has hers.

I have tried sending him the CSA list of things a child needs "How much it cost to bring up a child" but he just says I can only afford to give you £70 month.

I have never stopped access but I have stopped meeting him at the services due to a drain on my petrol.

What else can I do?

zoemads

I know this is an old thread but would appreciate some advice...

I have been trying to get CS from ex husband since 2011.

He lived in Hungary and then Germany.

I went through REMO, got a court order and sat and waited.

Due to lack of address the German courts closed the case.
They have now reopened it because I have sent them information that he has started working in Germany. He is living out of hotels so that he can't be found.

This man gave up work on purpose to go back packing around the world for a year. Staying in 5 star hotels.

Has bought a bike and a van.

Has gone on bike trips around Europe.

Flies back and forth to UK to visit family and occasionally to see daughter.

He has told my daughter.. Mum has sky TV how can she afford that if she is penniless. I have my money she has hers.

I have tried sending him the CSA list of things a child needs "How much it cost to bring up a child" but he just says I can only afford to give you £70 month.

I have never stopped access but I have stopped meeting him at the services due to a drain on my petrol.

What else can I do?

Ali781

Hi
I've battled almost 20 years to get maintenance from my ex for my 2 daughters. The CSA here done all they could but he avoided in every way possible.
He has now emigrated to Australia and I heard about remo so I contacted my magistrates court. They told me that remo will not deal with arrears only. I then approached another court in my area who sent me the remo forms and I had a court hearing today. The magistrate just signed the forms and I had to sign and swear on them. They then told me that the forms will be sent to remo.
They know I didn't have a maintenance order in place and never mentioned having one.
Anyone else had any luck with Australia?