burnt CD wont play in car

Marty_J

Bowling_4_Gold wrote: »

?? Where did you get that from? I was just saying if the person was not very up to date with all this technology, they might be confused as to which to pick: 'MP3' CD or Audio CD. With WM player, you don't get that confusion.

Why wouldn't the words "data CD" confuse our poor befuddled troglodyte?

Basically, you're saying iTunes is confusing because it calls mp3 CDs "mp3 CDs", whereas WMP is nice and clear because it calls mp3 CDs "data CDs".

Anyway, places to go, things to see. Unfortunately I can't sit on MSE all day

Have fun. :cool:

-TangleFoot-

Marty_J wrote: »

But a data CD and an mp3 CD are two different things, or rather, they can be two different things.

Um... how?

Marty_J

-TangleFoot- wrote: »

Um... how?

Because all mp3 CDs are data CDs, but not all data CDs are mp3 CDs. Therefore, they can be different things.

You can burn as many disks full of AAC or Apple Lossless files as you like, but they won't play in your mp3 CD player.

Lum

Which, of course, isn't an issue for Windows Media Player because unlike iTunes it doesn't use bloody AAC files.

I can see the point of how the wording may be confusing, but can't really think of many ways to improve it. Maybe they could label it "() Standard Audio CD () MP3 CD* () Data CD * - Not supported on all audio CD players"

Problem is, with every car radio now labelling itself "MP3 Player compatible" (translation: Has a line-in port, or maybe USB, who knows?) the issue is still nicely confusing.

-TangleFoot-

Marty_J wrote: »

Because all mp3 CDs are data CDs, but not all data CDs are mp3 CDs.

Now you're just arguing semantics! If I put a data disc with just one MP3 file on it into a DVD player, it'll still play.

Marty_J

Lum wrote: »

Which, of course, isn't an issue for Windows Media Player because unlike iTunes it doesn't use bloody AAC files.

No it doesn't. But mp3 CD players won't play WMA or WMA Lossless files either.

-TangleFoot- wrote: »

Now you're just arguing semantics!

You started it.

If I put a data disc with just one MP3 file on it into a DVD player, it'll still play.

Sure it will. You can burn 100 tracks, only one of which is an mp3, and you can listen to that one track until your sanity wears out.

Not really my definition of an mp3 CD, but there I go with the semantics again.

Dave101t

select. audio. cd.
choose your favourite 10-15 tracks only.

if you want an mp3 cd, buy a better cd player for your car, or simply plug your ipod into the car through the 3.5mm aux input connection. dont have one of those? oh well...!

Lum

-TangleFoot- wrote: »

Now you're just arguing semantics! If I put a data disc with just one MP3 file on it into a DVD player, it'll still play.

Not necessarily. Plenty of DVD players, usually older ones, wont play MP3 CDs

Marty_J wrote: »

No it doesn't. But mp3 CD players won't play WMA or WMA Lossless files either.

No but you can get standalone players that will play WMAs so burning them to CD is valid.
Not sure why anyone would want to. WMA players cost more because of the licensing fees and MP3 is just fine as a format. The only thing is Microsoft make it nice and easy to rip CDs to WMA wheras MP3s require free 3rd party software so some people get caught out with this and are left stuck with WMA files and the need to indirectly pay Microsoft to play them in the car.

Marty_J

Lum wrote: »

No but you can get standalone players that will play WMAs so burning them to CD is valid.

You can get CD players that will play AAC files too.

And there are other reasons for burning an audio file to a disk (for backup purposes for instance).

Not sure why anyone would want to. WMA players cost more because of the licensing fees and MP3 is just fine as a format.

mp3 is also licensed in many parts of the world.

The only thing is Microsoft make it nice and easy to rip CDs to WMA wheras MP3s require free 3rd party software so some people get caught out with this and are left stuck with WMA files and the need to indirectly pay Microsoft to play them in the car.

Doesn't WMP rip mp3 files?

Lum

Marty_J wrote: »

You can get CD players that will play AAC files too.

And there are other reasons for burning an audio file to a disk (for backup purposes for instance).

They are a lot less common than WMA players, which are again less common than MP3

Doesn't WMP rip mp3 files?

sort of. They may have changed this recently but MP3 encoding under windows used to be severely crippled (limited to 56kbps) by default, giving terrible sounding results. You'd have to either install a 3rd party codec (most of which were hacked versions of the Fraunhoffer one that came with Windows) or use a separate program such as LAME (which is still the best way to do it)