The recession, benefits, the safety net, and the learning curve

lostinrates

PasturesNew wrote: »

I think it's a different sort of Respect.
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I found the change in atmosphere at ''Normal'' college for my A levels .....a shock. Not better or worse, just different to my previous places of education (private). I noticed many lecturers did not have the ''rspect'' that teachers in other environments had. It wasn't just the ''relaxed adult environment'' (I'd had that in a specialist subject school) but that the lecturers didn't want''school-y'' type respect. Often however this backfired on them with students with less good boundries.

Its one thing to smoke out the front with your lecturer or go to the pub with them if you want to learn and you already understand boundaries. Its anothr if you're there 'cos your parents made you/you don't know what else to do/you happen to be infantile.

Bogof_Babe

A few years back our local council were advertising for a "Five-a-Day Coordinator", £25K salary (this was around year 2000), to encourage kids to eat their fruit and veg! I emailed my MP about this, and he replied that it was not his policy to get involved in council jobs issues :rolleyes:. At that time our Council Taxes were increasing by double digits annualy :mad:.

fc123

vivatifosi wrote: »

Just had a look. It pays about £20k (scale goes from a little under to a little over). The composting one pays approx £22k (same issue with scales). I don't know why, but I'm somewhat amused that composting pays better than respecting.

Edited to add: Incidentally fc, did the scheme to get everyone walking work once you had a coordinator?

Heres Tony Blair promo from 2004 and this must be local school near me who did it.

Fri 8th Oct 2004
Notre Dame Primary School, Greenwich are celebrating the end of Walk to School Week with a morning tree dressing ceremony. The school have built a wooden tree which will be decorated with leaves depicting how each child travelled to school during the week.
Each child that walked to school will be giving a green leaf (the healthiest), a yellow for those who came by bus and a red for those who came by car.
By the end of the ceremony the school are hoping that the tree will be blooming in healthy green and not blazing in choking red. The ceremony will take place at Notre Dame Primary School, Eglinton Road, SE18 3ST on Friday 8th October, 10.10am. Contact Ann Forster, London Borough of Greenwich, Tel: 020 8921 8114.

I am guessing that the final choice for The Walking Bus Job organised the above events as part of his/her role. Sniffs of an ex marketing /PR type to me.
As I lived in the area, I saw no change to the traffic post 2004 after this initiative. We left Aug 2005 (that is, day to day living).

I am also thinking

Each child that walked to school will be giving a green leaf (the healthiest), a yellow for those who came by bus and a red for those who came by car.

that the successful applicant didn't have kids and had never had to do a school run and then get to work on time....just from the Enid Blyton tone of the reward scheme. A little out of touch with todays 8-10 yr olds methinks.
Perhaps she/he had also never encountered the shambles that is our school admissions scheme either.

fc123

Just to add post google...smarrrt ex PR person who got job....lots of Walking Bus initiatives all over the country.
Smarter still, jobs to assist the scheme are voluntary.
Lots of voluntary work here in Kent.

Could be why it wasn't a 22k public sector job but 37k (in 2003/04) for the Instigator.....they got the back up work to make the scheme 'A Success' for free from the parents. Smart move.

Mr_Mumble

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

Who cares, so long as they pay real money, and preferably to someone like Max who would do his utmost to develop the job into something that would be of benefit to the school and community.

You can't aid the community unless the 'non-job' is of more benefit than what the taxpayer would have done with the wage (+other costs). No matter how able or enthusiastic someone is they aren't going to be a productive member of society if their work involves the proverbial digging holes to fill them back in again.

lostinrates

bump....I can't be the only person who forgot to book mrk the blog

Phirefly

I'm actually on the edge of my seat what with recent developments eeeee

Bogof_Babe

lostinrates wrote: »

bump....I can't be the only person who forgot to book mrk the blog

I've had a problem bookmarking it. I've done it three days running, and it is there while I stay online, but when I go back the next day it's gone from my bookmarks list .

Keep having to go through my User CP posts to find this thread, and they were getting a few too many pages back! So thank you for that LiR, much appreciated .

fc123

It's looking up for Max. It's all Blondes, BMW's plus making the most of the 'freetime'.

PasturesNew

Some people can't even do unemployment properly ... why can't he be no friends, cold baked beans and endless pointless days stretching ahead ... like all the others?