CSA Not Paying Maintenance

DUTR

Diamond78 wrote: »

the csa have not treated my ex partner unfailry, he has got away with not doing NOTHING for my son for 7 YEARS. He earns more than that as he does plenty of overtime, gets double for sundays and works in the public sector. If one man can pay money for drugs, then £54.50 a week for his childs upbringing shouldnt be to much to pay. If one wants to leave a job where they earn more than £2000 after tax and want to go on benefits, thats just very bad. Time will tell. But thanks anyway

Sounds like he has a job like mine (prolly the same company) one of my female colleagues who was married to another employee , the ex husband packed in his job to avoid paying, no she gets £5 week for 3 children, you work that out :T,
Contributing is not a punishment and it shouldn't be made to feel that way, some PWC's (not necessarily you) do not use the contribution wisely , I do agree both parents should contribute fairly, when I see or hear of cases where the csa hound female NRP's in the same way they hound some guys I will start to believe they act fairly along with the PWC.

Soubrette

DUTR wrote: »

when I see or hear of cases where the csa hound female NRP's in the same way they hound some guys I will start to believe they act fairly along with the PWC.

How many cases will it take for you to believe this?

Sou

DUTR

Soubrette wrote: »

How many cases will it take for you to believe this?

Sou

A colleague (male ) is the PWC, the mother earns a fair amount more than we do, csa has done nowt or very little, summary is he gets nothing , a long time friend had his 2 children, csa again do nowt, only once did I see on the news of the csa contacting some woman up north of England who had racked up £17k or so of arrears, when interviewed she thought she didn't have to pay and it was just for absent fathers!
However those cases have nothing to do with the OP's posting, other than the PWC used their energy on raising the children rather than worrying about money from the nrp.

Soubrette

DUTR wrote: »

A colleague (male ) is the PWC, the mother earns a fair amount more than we do, csa has done nowt or very little, summary is he gets nothing , a long time friend had his 2 children, csa again do nowt, only once did I see on the news of the csa contacting some woman up north of England who had racked up £17k or so of arrears, when interviewed she thought she didn't have to pay and it was just for absent fathers!
However those cases have nothing to do with the OP's posting, other than the PWC used their energy on raising the children rather than worrying about money from the nrp.

And yet you know of them? Funny that a PWC spending all his time raising his children and not worrying about money issues would have the inclination to mention this

No, they don't have much to do with the OP's situation but your appalling advice to someone reaching out for help does.

You really can't help your bias can you? But please try and bear in mind that your tone can really affect some people - the OP obviously needs the money she has been promised - not told that she doesn't need it.

BTW - your points of view are so unpalateable for me that I have you on ignore. Pretty rare but I just can't stomach your posts I'm afraid.

Sou

DUTR

Soubrette wrote: »

And yet you know of them? Funny that a PWC spending all his time raising his children and not worrying about money issues would have the inclination to mention this

No, they don't have much to do with the OP's situation but your appalling advice to someone reaching out for help does.

You really can't help your bias can you? But please try and bear in mind that your tone can really affect some people - the OP obviously needs the money she has been promised - not told that she doesn't need it.

BTW - your points of view are so unpalateable for me that I have you on ignore. Pretty rare but I just can't stomach your posts I'm afraid.

Sou

There is nowt proud of being a begger, whether you agree or not there is more to raising children than money and getting hell bent on hounding someone for money that maybe handy but not essential.Whether I'm on your ignore list or not doesn't trouble me one bit. as the intelligent person you are , you act narrow minded if you think everything in life rotates the way you feel.

Diamond78

I have only recieved 2 letters from the csa. The first letters dated 20th feb which states as of the 20th of feb I will get £54.50 a week. He us eto pay £82 previously to his other child. They say due to him having to pay 2 children, my case is clerical which I do not know what that means.

The 2nd and last letter i got was dated 24th march which states his arrears was £109. My maths isnt great so I do not know if that is correct if my payments was due to start from 20/02/2009.
In that same letter it states that they have SENT the employer a deductions from earnings. On the 2nd page of that letter it says that a 4 weekly payment from 03/04/2009 of £218 will be paid until further notice.

So im confused. so how can my claim start from 20/02/2009 and I only get £109? Then the next payment starts from 03/04/2009? So basically, the csa take maintenance in arreas!! If thats the case, they should of told me coz there is no way in this world I would of bothered as for 2 months Ive been having my income support deducted.

I have found the contact details of my local MP, so I will email her once my son has gone to sleep.

I do not have a case worker. When I phoned them again, the guy could not give me any info as to what is happening. He could not tell me if the deduction from earnings had been processed. I asked to speak to a senior member of staff and he put me on hold and then came back to say his supervisor could not do anything to help apart from email the debt department to chase my case up. He stated that payment should reach the csa by the 15th of may, so then I have to wait 10-15 working days to get this payment. So if i do get any maintenance, it would prob be end of may. Does that not mean then I am owed money for march and april.
Thank you to you all for replying and trying to help me, i really appreciate it.

Diamond78

I have never hounded my ex partner for money. In fact, he has the oppurtunity to be part of my sons life. All I ever asked him was to help buy clothes, shoes, books ect. I do not go out, I dont buy myself anything and that doesnt bother me but what bothers me is that my son is being affected by this. I do not want my son looking like a tramp in clothes to small for him or with holes in his shoes. My son is the innocent one. It takes 2 to make a child, if he walked away from my son when he was a baby then i would never bother or give someone the time of the day but the fact is, he has been in my sons life and should help out. It was his choice not to help me as he wanted to spend his money on drugs, designer clothes and trips abroad to play golf. That doesnt bother me either as I have lived my life and had fun before I gave birth. My duty is to bring up my son as best as I can but when Im strugglying, its dammm hard. Kids grow up quick. Im not ashamed that I go charity shops or boot sales to buy my son stuff as thats the cheapist option for me. Im not ashamed that I buy his stuff from Primark but my son is a boy and growing all the time. Its not fair that he cannot have normal activities like some other fortunate children.

I will not be claiming benefits forever which is why Im going college and doing work experience to better my life. By april next year I will qualify and can then work full time but till then I am going to struggle. I am not a begger and never will be. My ex owes me a lot of money from the past when I use to work and i never got a penny back. This is not to get back at him but to get help for my sons upbringing. He pays for his other 2 children, 1 through the csa and the other cash in hand, so why should my son suffer anymore. This is why I only applied in december, any other person would of done it a long time ago but he had 7 years.

Soubrette

oh dear - I don't think your case going clerical is good news Hopefully someone with some knowledge of the CSA systems such as Kelloggs will be on shortly to explain exactly what that means in practice. I believe in simple terms it means that the computer is unable to cope with your case for some reason so it is being done manually.

I think that means that when you ring up, the person you speak to won't be able to just look up on the computer and find out what's going on, which makes things more complicated and long winded.

You do not have to justify your life to anyone - the only person who has any right to judge you is your son (and that goes for the NRP too).

Good luck Diamond

Sou

Diamond78

Soubrette wrote: »

oh dear - I don't think your case going clerical is good news Hopefully someone with some knowledge of the CSA systems such as Kelloggs will be on shortly to explain exactly what that means in practice. I believe in simple terms it means that the computer is unable to cope with your case for some reason so it is being done manually.

I think that means that when you ring up, the person you speak to won't be able to just look up on the computer and find out what's going on, which makes things more complicated and long winded.

You do not have to justify your life to anyone - the only person who has any right to judge you is your son (and that goes for the NRP too).

Good luck Diamond

Sou

Thank you Sou,
I will wait a few more weeks then and hopefully will get some luck with the MP. I will have to contact her first thing tomorrow and see what happens. I thought the CSA changed for the better but maybe im just unlucky. I cant see my ex giving up his job just for the sake of paying the csa. He was paying £82 a week before to his daughter through the csa,so now as he is paying CS to 2 children through the csa his going to have £109 a week deducted, which is only £27 a week extra on top of what he was having deducted previously. Thanks for your help and advice and hopefully soon I will get the money or not. Goodnight x

DUTR

Diamond78 wrote: »

I have never hounded my ex partner for money. In fact, he has the oppurtunity to be part of my sons life. All I ever asked him was to help buy clothes, shoes, books ect. I do not go out, I dont buy myself anything and that doesnt bother me but what bothers me is that my son is being affected by this. I do not want my son looking like a tramp in clothes to small for him or with holes in his shoes. My son is the innocent one. It takes 2 to make a child, if he walked away from my son when he was a baby then i would never bother or give someone the time of the day but the fact is, he has been in my sons life and should help out. It was his choice not to help me as he wanted to spend his money on drugs, designer clothes and trips abroad to play golf. That doesnt bother me either as I have lived my life and had fun before I gave birth. My duty is to bring up my son as best as I can but when Im strugglying, its dammm hard. Kids grow up quick. Im not ashamed that I go charity shops or boot sales to buy my son stuff as thats the cheapist option for me. Im not ashamed that I buy his stuff from Primark but my son is a boy and growing all the time. Its not fair that he cannot have normal activities like some other fortunate children.

I will not be claiming benefits forever which is why Im going college and doing work experience to better my life. By april next year I will qualify and can then work full time but till then I am going to struggle. I am not a begger and never will be. My ex owes me a lot of money from the past when I use to work and i never got a penny back. This is not to get back at him but to get help for my sons upbringing. He pays for his other 2 children, 1 through the csa and the other cash in hand, so why should my son suffer anymore. This is why I only applied in december, any other person would of done it a long time ago but he had 7 years.

Diamond78
I am not judging you , everybody's circumstance is different as are people, if your ex never had a job what then? Yes I agree he should contribute,since children do grow up quickly I don't believe it is money well spent buying top brands to keep up with the Jones's . I also don't believe the contribution should be solely related to income of the NRP, it should be capped, but hey the DWaP would lose out (which is what the csa is all about in my eyes). Please understand that I cannot jump on the bandwagon to say try this or try that to milk the NRP, however that does not mean that you should not seek what is due. Truth be known the csa favor battering the easy targets.
Good luck though, I hope the case works out in favour of your son :cool: