DVD Free P&P Seller Adding Postage After Auction End

cyril82

pgilc1 wrote: »

So the evidence we have is that the O/P says the seller seemed to use a listing template that didnt apply to DVDs and that the listing was vague. ie, the person who has actually seen the listing has given us their opinion.

Exactly, which is not evidence it is opinion as you state yourself in the quote above.

pgilc1 wrote: »

However, you, who havent seen the listing are saying that it wasnt misleading

No, i said we have seen no EVIDENCE that it was misleading but even if it was misleading that does not excuse advising the OP to pull a scam in retaliation, they should just request a mutual transaction withdrawal.

pgilc1 wrote: »

the sellers terms (which are illegal)?

His terms are not illegal, you are now confusing Ebay policy with law. It is quite lawful to add postage after the sale ends especially if advised prior that it would be done.

pippitypip_2

Thanks Paul.

Oh and just to clarify to all, that smiley is supposed to be a "group hug" - although it does look quite dirty!!

pippitypip

motorguy

cyril82 wrote: »

that does not excuse advising the OP to pull a scam in retaliation

No one has suggested scamming anyone. Can you show me text that says otherwise?

cyril82 wrote: »

His terms are not illegal, you are now confusing Ebay policy with law. It is quite lawful to add postage after the sale ends especially if advised prior that it would be done.

Its ebays system, and his terms are illegal on ebays system. Can you show me otherwise?

motorguy

pippitypip wrote: »

Thanks Paul.

Oh and just to clarify to all, that smiley is supposed to be a "group hug" - although it does look quite dirty!!

pippitypip

Oeer.

Yes it does look a bid rude now that you mention it....

cyril82

pgilc1 wrote: »

Back here in the real world, ebay will rule in favour of the buyer as the listing is in breach of their terms and conditions. .

I think you mean back in ebay world. :rolleyes:

motorguy

cyril82 wrote: »

I think you mean back in ebay world. :rolleyes:

Call it what you want but thats how it will work out. Ebay will rule in favour of the buyer as the listing is in breach of their terms.

Now you can throw a tantrum all you like, but thats how it is.

cyril82

pgilc1 wrote: »

No one has suggested scamming anyone. Can you show me text that says otherwise?

people were.are advising that the op demand money off with threat of a neg, whether direct threat or implied threat, that is feedback blackmail, feedback blackmail in order to gain financially is a scam.

pgilc1 wrote: »

Its ebays system, and his terms are illegal on ebays system. Can you show me otherwise?

Define "illegal" do you mean illegal as in the real world term i.e. against the real world law or illegal as in the ebay world term where ebay rule the world and their policy is law?

The ebay policy that sellers must not charge postage on DVD's is CERTAINLY not law in the real world and you should remember that you are conducting real world business on ebay so the law over rides ebay policy.

cyril82

pgilc1 wrote: »

Call it what you want but thats how it will work out. Ebay will rule in favour of the buyer as the listing is in breach of their terms.

You're right, ebay will rule in favour of the buyer, that's why they make such scams possible.

Does that mean it's ok to advise it on MSE then? if the ebay system supports feedback blackmail then it's ok...thats what you're saying.

Great advise.

StaffsSW

Can anyone else see why Cyril is no longer an ebay seller?! I don't think it was by an informed business choice, rather that somebody made that chocie for them.

Anyone can make a grand a week when they make up their own rules, but for how long is another matter. I think we know who the real scammer is.


Back to the Original Post.

regardless of what people "think is right", the fact is that the seller can not add extra charges for postage after the sale, except in a few limited circumstances - large items via courier to Northern Ireland, for example.

Refuse to pay the extra. The seller can not force you to pay for a rule that they have decided to make up. Despite what the disollusioned amongst us may think, it is not blackmail.

And that is fact - not opinion.

motorguy

cyril82 wrote: »

people were.are advising that the op demand money off with threat of a neg, whether direct threat or implied threat, that is feedback blackmail, feedback blackmail in order to gain financially is a scam.

Please reread all the posts above where we've shown you that you misread what was put by Soolin. If you know Soolin at all, you would know there is noone more knowledgeable on ebay and fairer on MSE.

cyril82 wrote: »

Define "illegal" do you mean illegal as in the real world term i.e. against the real world law or illegal as in the ebay world term where ebay rule the world and their policy is law?

I define 'illegal' in this context as not complying with ebays terms and conditions, the consequences of which will most likely lead to the banning of the seller if they persist.

cyril82 wrote: »

The ebay policy that sellers must not charge postage on DVD's is CERTAINLY not law in the real world and you should remember that you are conducting real world business on ebay so the law over rides ebay policy.

Correct. However we are talking about a transaction on ebay, whereby ebays terms and conditions apply (whether we like them or not).

As a seller on ebay you either comply by ebays rules, or they ban you.

You can posture all day long, but thats how it is. When you're banned you're banned. Adios. You're an ex-ebay seller. Gone. Defunct.