Alternatives to Corsodyl??

Snuggles

robpw2 wrote: »

ur not pregnant are you ?( im assuming your a lady )

I am a lady, though not pregnant as far as I know!

Toothsmith

Snuggles wrote: »

Thanks Toothsmith. Can I ask what you mean? Is it not normal for this stuff to leave a nasty taste (a "clinical" taste is how I would describe it).

The dentist recomended me to use it because when she pricked my gum it bled, she didn't mention there was any more to it.

Corsodyl on it's own won't do much to 'cure' bleeding gums. It needs a good dental cleaning (Dentist or hygienist) backed up with good oral hygiene instruction, and more effort with a toothbrush and interdental cleaning by the patient.

Corsodyl is a good partner to all this, but won't do the job on it's own.

Plus the staining it will leave on your teeth will need a good clean up afterwards.

As for the taste - Yes, it's pretty disgusting.

(Having written all this, I take it it's proper Corsodyl we're talking about, not 'Corsodyl Daily, which is a different product entirely.

Snuggles

Toothsmith wrote: »

Corsodyl on it's own won't do much to 'cure' bleeding gums. It needs a good dental cleaning (Dentist or hygienist) backed up with good oral hygiene instruction, and more effort with a toothbrush and interdental cleaning by the patient.

Corsodyl is a good partner to all this, but won't do the job on it's own.

Plus the staining it will leave on your teeth will need a good clean up afterwards.

As for the taste - Yes, it's pretty disgusting.

(Having written all this, I take it it's proper Corsodyl we're talking about, not 'Corsodyl Daily, which is a different product entirely.

Thank you for taking the time to reply Toothsmith, I really appreciate it.

Yes it is the proper stuff, not the daily one. My gums don't bleed when I brush my teeth or anything, but when I had a check up, she pricked my gum with a sharp instrument (it hurt!) and said your gums are bleeding, then handed me a pre-printed card recommending Corsodyl, and told me to brush downwards not upwards (which I do anyway). I should probably mention this was an NHS dentist and I was in and out in about 2 minutes.

I did wonder if they recommend the stuff to everyone and if I really need it. I hadn't bothered trying it up to now as I was put off by the teeth staining thing, but I've been getting a recurring mouth ulcer under my tongue so thought I would try it as it might help that too. I really don't think I can stomach the stuff though.

I think I will have to review my finances and see if I can afford to go back to the private dentist I was seeing before I found an NHS one, at least she always had time to explain things.

jugglebug

Corsodyl, yup Bleugh

Competitors with the same active ingredient are chlorohex by colgate or Curasept, which is alcohol free and claims to stain "less" hmm define Less please :rolleyes:
In all cases I only use them as an companion to proper oral hygiene instruction, most likely coupled with a professional clean from my hygienist.
All the mouthwash in the world wont help if the brushing and flossing isn't done 1st.
And then if all the brushing and flossing is done, well we probably don't need the mouthwash. No matter what the latest TV campaign from Listerine says (also bleugh IMO)

I am hoping the dentist didnt !!!!! your gum, the probe we use for checking the gums is ball ended, not sharp. Therefore any bleeding that appears after it is put in place should be due to inflammation, not that because it is pointy. If it hurt it either meant you have lots of inflammation or too much force was used. Likely to be a combo of both in the real world I guess.

If you do use a corsodyl type mouthwash, be aware that most toothpastes contain an ingredient called Sodium Lauryl Sulphate which will stop it working so you must use them separately, you can find pastes without SLS but it isn't easy.

Also if you really want to experience foul tastes then go find a tube of Corsodyl Toothpaste. You with think the mouthwash tastes like nectar after trying that stuff :rotfl:

Snuggles

jugglebug wrote: »

Corsodyl, yup Bleugh

Competitors with the same active ingredient are chlorohex by colgate or Curasept, which is alcohol free and claims to stain "less" hmm define Less please :rolleyes:

I wonder if they taste any better though?!

jugglebug wrote: »

I am hoping the dentist didnt !!!!! your gum, the probe we use for checking the gums is ball ended, not sharp. Therefore any bleeding that appears after it is put in place should be due to inflammation, not that because it is pointy. If it hurt it either meant you have lots of inflammation or too much force was used. Likely to be a combo of both in the real world I guess.

I am really surprised by that, it felt like a really sharp jab, I thought she had pricked my gum with a pointed instrument. She did say my gum was inflamed - I have crowns on my two front teeth, and it's the gum above those teeth. I'm not sure what more I could do to keep this area clean - it's not a difficult to reach area so I'm not sure if the problem is related to the fact that I have crowns on those teeth.

jugglebug wrote: »

If you do use a corsodyl type mouthwash, be aware that most toothpastes contain an ingredient called Sodium Lauryl Sulphate which will stop it working so you must use them separately, you can find pastes without SLS but it isn't easy.

Yes I found it ironic that the Corsodyl instructions tell you this, but also say that to stop staining you should brush your teeth with toothpaste before using it

jugglebug wrote: »

Also if you really want to experience foul tastes then go find a tube of Corsodyl Toothpaste. You with think the mouthwash tastes like nectar after trying that stuff :rotfl:

LOL! I think I'll give that a miss, and I won't be using the moutwash again. I've only just stopped feeling sick after using it this morning.

noonesperfect

By "alternative" do you mean you would like an effective mouthwash but no one that is as chemically disgusting as Corsadyl?

I'm told neem mouthwash is very effective. Though I could suggest a website I won't as I don't want people thinking I'm advertising someone's business (not mine I have to say)

GracieP

jugglebug wrote: »

Also if you really want to experience foul tastes then go find a tube of Corsodyl Toothpaste. You with think the mouthwash tastes like nectar after trying that stuff :rotfl:

My grandmother used to use that stuff. For my brother and me, the ultimate dare was to brush your teeth with it.

jugglebug

Snuggles wrote: »

I'm not sure what more I could do to keep this area clean - it's not a difficult to reach area so I'm not sure if the problem is related to the fact that I have crowns on those teeth.



Yes I found it ironic that the Corsodyl instructions tell you this, but also say that to stop staining you should brush your teeth with toothpaste before using it

Crowns will always be harder to keep fully clear of plaque as the join between tooth and crown is well a join and so isn't as easy to clean as a smooth surface.
What do use in between them? Floss? or interdental brushes. That is just as important as your normal brush.

The other thing that can cause localised bleeding and inflammation around crowns is if the margins of the crown are in the wrong place. We try to hide the join in the crevice between the tooth and gum, but if it is too deep and we invade what is termed the "biologic width" then the gum doesnt like it at all and responds in this way.
No way at all that I can tell you if this is the case for you. Ask your dentist and see if she looks blank, because it isn't always well understood. It is only recently I came to grips with it to be honest

As for brushing before using Corsodyl, essentially what it stains is residual plaque, so the idea is brush as well as you can, sit on your backside for 20 minutes, then rinse. Any plaque left behind gets killed and stained.

GTaylor_2

I used Corsodyl and like glowgirl lost my sense of taste (other than the corsodyl !) for the day, but at least it did the job (had some gum bleeding).

Currently using one of those waterjets [hydrofloss kitty, but others are no doubt available and equally good] with a 1/2 cap of cordosyl in the water - gums are looking good and no bad taste.

Gareth

cathy_j87

I started using corsodyl toothpaste last night....my boyfriend refused to kiss me until I had brushed my teeth with normal paste! It was already slightly better this morning (at least, I didn't gag) but I was wondering if people have actually noticed an improvement after using it for a while? My dentist advised using it as my gums have been bleeding a bit when brushed and they are a bit inflammed.
I'll put up with the taste if I think it'll actually help!