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little rant, vendors want an extra two weeks to move out....arrgh

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  • stolt
    stolt Posts: 2,865 Forumite
    mlz1413 wrote: »
    If your LL will let you I'd ask to stay until August as that is the next time frame to suit you and your builder, but as the vendors don't do anything until they have to I would insist you exchange so they can't back out.

    Personally I'd walk away, but it's easy to say when your not involved!


    yes i'm waiting for my LL to call me back, he had builders planned to fit a new kitchen and bathroom and wanted to get the kerb dropped so he could do the driveway, so he said we couldnt stay while they were doing that (and neither would i want to!).
    personally i'd love to walk away i'm not as attached to the house as my wife, dont get me wrong its a lovely house but I can see potential of many that are currently on the market. But she has liked this house since 2007 and to play games is not really going to do me any favours.
    Listen to what people say, but watch what people what people do!!
  • stolt
    stolt Posts: 2,865 Forumite


    enough to get me some penny sweets! i suppose it could go in a high interest account and earn me a little more. my fault i was too quick off the mark!
    Listen to what people say, but watch what people what people do!!
  • Ulfar
    Ulfar Posts: 1,309 Forumite
    edited 6 May 2009 at 9:48AM
    Sorry but this vendor is taking the !!!!.

    You are I am afraid going to have to be firm with them, if they don't like it find somewhere else. I can guarantee they are not going to like the fact that the estate agent will want to be paid as they found a buyer and it is the vendors fault you have walked away.
  • stolt
    stolt Posts: 2,865 Forumite
    Ulfar wrote: »
    Sorry but this vendor is taking the !!!!.

    You are I am afraid going to have to be firm with them, if they don't like it find somewhere else. I can guarantee they are not going to like the fact that the estate agent will want to be paid as they found a buyer and it is the vendors fault you have walked away.


    Yes EA phoned this morning and he mentioned the other house. he has spoken to the vendors wife today and she needs to speak to her husband for completing 28th May now as we suggested, but he isnt convinced that they were going to for it even though in his opinion they could lose the buyer. So we will have to wait and see, the EA said he thinks they are crazy but said he can't convince them and its a shame its got this far and fallen through.

    If i can find a house with a similar floor plan then we would go for it. Nightmare just when i thought we had finally found a place, i've been shouting my mouth off to our daughters saying they i'd get them a trampoline in the garden for the summer and finally they will have there own bedroom each.
    Listen to what people say, but watch what people what people do!!
  • Ulfar
    Ulfar Posts: 1,309 Forumite
    Good luck with whatever happens.

    Vendors who mess around like this I am afraid are nuts.
  • Nenen
    Nenen Posts: 2,381 Forumite
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    I really feel for you and your family Stolt as I remember what a pain it was, having been in a similar situation ourselves many years ago. In our case the vendors were buying a new build that wasn't yet finished but promised us when we viewed (in November 1986) that if their new house wasn't complted by the end of February 1987 they would be happy to move in with family living nearby. I was pregnant at the time and we were moving across the country for dh's job so timing was fairly crucial. February came and went with them continually stalling - by which time I was 7 months pregnant and my dh was driving 200 miles per day. They then promised to meet our deadline of 10th April but on the day of exchange our solicitor called us to say the paperwork they had sent made completion 17th April which was Good Friday (removal companies LOL at that one or charged the earth) and less than three weeks before my baby was due! :eek: At that point I had had enough of their messing about and duplicity and we pulled out! At first their EA didn't take me seriously and was quite rude. They thought they had us over a barrel as we wouldn't find anywhere else in the time frame. However, once our solicitor told them we were definitely pulling out, within minutes they were on the phone offering to go back to April 10th etc etc etc but for us it was just too late to trust them and we refused to consider this. We ended up completing on somewhere else which turned out to be a much better deal... the wonderful seller couldn't have been nicer, he even allowed us to start decorating once we'd exchanged (the property was empty) and moved heaven and earth with his solicitor to exchange and complete quickly.

    I suppose our experience taught us that you really do need to decide how important something is to you and, if it is crucial, then make a firm stand. I wish you the very best of luck and, in the meantime, maybe you could have a really great family day out at a theme park somewhere in lieu of trampolines or a holiday!
    “A journey is best measured in friends, not in miles.”
    (Tim Cahill)
  • stolt
    stolt Posts: 2,865 Forumite
    Ulfar wrote: »
    Good luck with whatever happens.

    Vendors who mess around like this I am afraid are nuts.

    yep agree, i just dont think they realise how lucky they are to have buyers that and been easy going all away along. Even when there was a delay with them providing the solicitors details we didnt panic or demand silly things. Oh well i'm sure it will work out for the right reasons. (not sure my wife would agree right now):p
    Listen to what people say, but watch what people what people do!!
  • QTPie
    QTPie Posts: 1,373 Forumite
    stolt wrote: »
    yep agree, i just dont think they realise how lucky they are to have buyers that and been easy going all away along. Even when there was a delay with them providing the solicitors details we didnt panic or demand silly things. Oh well i'm sure it will work out for the right reasons. (not sure my wife would agree right now):p

    It is amazing how many idiots there are in the world... Maybe "idiot" is a strong word - "ignorant, self-centred people" might be more well suited ;)

    Many people just see the little bit of world that circulates immediately around them and either have little knowledge or little care about how that effects others. Honestly, you have to deal with people like this many times a day...

    Get your minds straight on what you want to do: if you really DO want to pull out, then what will you feel if they do bring completion back to 28th May? Will it be too late? If so, despite looking for a new house, what are you going to do in the meantime (i.e. IF you have to move out of your current rented house) - since you will not have time to complete on another house by the end of May? Work out your own minds and have a "Plan B".

    I agree with things "working out for the right reasons" in the end. Keep an eye on the wife, though: best to keep her "on side" and not end up being married to a "bubbling mass of resentment" (I can say that as somebody else's wife... hint "ok, I am fine with that" isn't a good sign... ;) ).

    Good luck
    QT
  • Ulfar
    Ulfar Posts: 1,309 Forumite
    If they will bring completion back to the 28th May, I would exchange now with that as your completion date.

    I would ask my solicitor whether a retention might be a good idea as the vendor might resent you for pushing the issue.

    Hopefully though everything will complete and you will be able to put this all behind you, moving is stressful.

    I am in the process of buying and there is no chain either side, the problem is the vendors estate agent is the one messing about. However if I get to completion all this will melt away.
  • stolt
    stolt Posts: 2,865 Forumite
    Nenen wrote: »
    I really feel for you and your family Stolt as I remember what a pain it was, having been in a similar situation ourselves many years ago. In our case the vendors were buying a new build that wasn't yet finished but promised us when we viewed (in November 1986) that if their new house wasn't complted by the end of February 1987 they would be happy to move in with family living nearby. I was pregnant at the time and we were moving across the country for dh's job so timing was fairly crucial. February came and went with them continually stalling - by which time I was 7 months pregnant and my dh was driving 200 miles per day. They then promised to meet our deadline of 10th April but on the day of exchange our solicitor called us to say the paperwork they had sent made completion 17th April which was Good Friday (removal companies LOL at that one or charged the earth) and less than three weeks before my baby was due! :eek: At that point I had had enough of their messing about and duplicity and we pulled out! At first their EA didn't take me seriously and was quite rude. They thought they had us over a barrel as we wouldn't find anywhere else in the time frame. However, once our solicitor told them we were definitely pulling out, within minutes they were on the phone offering to go back to April 10th etc etc etc but for us it was just too late to trust them and we refused to consider this. We ended up completing on somewhere else which turned out to be a much better deal... the wonderful seller couldn't have been nicer, he even allowed us to start decorating once we'd exchanged (the property was empty) and moved heaven and earth with his solicitor to exchange and complete quickly.

    I suppose our experience taught us that you really do need to decide how important something is to you and, if it is crucial, then make a firm stand. I wish you the very best of luck and, in the meantime, maybe you could have a really great family day out at a theme park somewhere in lieu of trampolines or a holiday!

    thanks for replying, I've seen many threads whereby the sale has fallen through and they have bought another and said how much happier/pleased they are. Just hard at the time to believe that! For my wife the floorplan is perfect and fits in with what she has dreamed about for years. When we first viewed the house back in late 2007 it was out of our league but she fell in love with it, I suppose because it came back around nearly 2 years later and in our price range it was us thinking it was fate! I do believe they will move, but everything has be on there terms. my daughters friend lives opposite the house and my wife was speaking to her mum and she said she saw them digging plants out of the garden and potting them up so they must be serious (he says not sure whether i believe what i right) - (but i think in some cases people like everything there own way and obilivious to others peoples wishes/needs).

    I have never played games with any of the houses we have seen and made a point at the very start of saying that. but i think we are too honest and upfront about how much we like somewhere and it doesnt get us anywhere. but then neither could I keep screwing every last penny out of someone just because I want to the have the upper hand.

    i believe in karma and these vendors are moving into their daughters house while they search for another house (no doubt waiting for the prices to fall further) but I do hope (he says not being bitter) that they encounter some hard nose vendors such as themselves when they come to purchase a house and they will know exactly what they are put us through.

    i think what really annoys me most is that we have alot on our plates as our youngest daughter was diagnosed with arthritis last year and has been in and out of hopsitals inclduing great ormand street every few weeks for ops and checkups etc and has been very stressful for my wife and my otehr two daughters, and its really upset my wife and i think the stress with all that I kinda thought we were due get a break somewhere along the line and have a easy house buy (not a chance!). So i'm trying not to build her hopes up, but at the same time she wants to know whats going on obviously, so I have tried to sort everything out myself. its basically why I started this thread so i could have moan about the vendors without going home and depressing my wife about it all!!;)
    Listen to what people say, but watch what people what people do!!
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