how many nights can i stay over

dmg24

boliston wrote: »

Monitoring of the claimant's movements would surely be more to find out if they were working whilst claiming.

This thread is more about the crime of having a relationship whilst claiming, so they would be surely more interested in the movements of visitors!

The DWP are interested in detecting all types of fraud, they do not place a priority on any particular type.

It is common sense that the investigation will look at the movements of claimants and their partners.

missmontana

dmg24 wrote: »

Yes, the DWP do have investigators who may monitor the claimants movements, check their financial records etc.

missmontana, the decision as to whether a couple are living together is not as simple as how long they spend at the house, that is one of several factors that will be considered.

I know its not that simple, but that was the answer to the question about how many nights etc.... They really ought to just say if its more than 4 out of 7 nights a week then its classed as living together. Why can't they just come up with some solid guidelines for a change?!!! lol :rotfl:

missmontana

boliston wrote: »

Monitoring of the claimant's movements would surely be more to find out if they were working whilst claiming.

This thread is more about the crime of having a relationship whilst claiming, so they would be surely more interested in the movements of visitors!

mmmm and depending on how many "visitors" there are, could lead to them discovering what sort of "work" the claimant is doing... or should I say service they are providing?!!

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in answer to the question "how many nights can i/can he stay over?"
we need a sticky saying:

we don`t know

healy

woodbine wrote: »

in answer to the question "how many nights can i/can he stay over?"
we need a sticky saying:

we don`t know

It has got to be one of the biggest myths on benefit forums that there is a "safe" magical number of nights that someone can stay!

Vader123

As has been stated, there is no "set number". The "being a couple" thing has a number of tests :

1) Public recognition. If there were to ask around what would people say about her relationship status.
2) Do they eat together?
3) holiday together?
4) Shop together?
5) Sleep together?

When someone is single, with children, the state steps in to provide the extra security needed.

Someone who is around regularly, using utlities (lights, showering etc) should contribute to the running of the place. Its what we expect from adult children etc, so their contribution should be recognised and benefits adjusted.

Vader

davenkirst

I know of someone who had a child with her partner and she claimed benefits - He moved in, they were their 6 months and she had been under survaliance and they told him to move out and that he could stay an absolute maximum of 2 nights per week, which they did do... shortly after the seperation caused them to seperate, so before anyone starts this and gets 'used to ' living with the other person i would say DONT unless you are preparred to go all the way, come off benefits and do it legitamtely!!! Its just not worth it...wish youluck

missmontana

Vader123 wrote: »

As has been stated, there is no "set number". The "being a couple" thing has a number of tests :

1) Public recognition. If there were to ask around what would people say about her relationship status.
2) Do they eat together?
3) holiday together?
4) Shop together?
5) Sleep together?

When someone is single, with children, the state steps in to provide the extra security needed.

Someone who is around regularly, using utlities (lights, showering etc) should contribute to the running of the place. Its what we expect from adult children etc, so their contribution should be recognised and benefits adjusted.

Vader

I've had a relationship with someone and done all those things, but he was never actually living with me, and I never asked him to contribute to the household bills!!

boliston

Vader123 wrote: »

As has been stated, there is no "set number". The "being a couple" thing has a number of tests :

1) Public recognition. If there were to ask around what would people say about her relationship status......

I can imagine that the "ask around" test might work in a small village where everyone knows everybody's business, but I doubt it would work in any large city.

For example I have always lived in flats and there has never been a situation where I have really spoken to any neighbours, and flats normally have a high turnover of tenants, who are typically on 6 month shorthold tenancies. I would hate the thought of neighbours knowing all about me!

leemack

missmontana wrote: »

I've had a relationship with someone and done all those things, but he was never actually living with me, and I never asked him to contribute to the household bills!!

councils have been known to argue that people not physically living together should be classed as a couple for benefit purposes.