Why was IMMMIGRATION ignored in the budget>?

ninky_2

cyril82 wrote: »

we have allowed too many immigrants into a small country and simply can not afford to sustain such levels of immigration

net migration from 1991 - 2006 accounted for 2.3 million growth in uk population.

with births in the uk typically around 700, 000 a year breeding accounted for around 10 million growth in population in the same 15 year period.

anyone who has children is somewhat hypocritical to complain about growing population size. if you ain't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

moppet_217

I am from australia. We can not open a child trust fund without a voucher from the goverment, which you can only get by claiming child benefit. If my husband claimed child benefit it would be viewed that he was claiming on my behalf, as I am home more with our son I am apparently his main parent which is who has to claim it.

Sorry if I am ranting buy I get really upset with people goign on about immigration at the moment and not stopping and thinking about situations like my family.

tomterm8 wrote: »

Pardon? What country are you from? And why isn't he entitled to a child trust fund?

cyril82

moppet_217 wrote: »

I would like to know who all these immigrants are who are getting benefits. I am an immigrant myself, I entered the country legally and my stay here has always been legal. My husband is brittish (born and lived here his whole life), and my son is also brittish(born here and has a brittish passport through his dad). We do not get a single penny from the goverment (not even child tax credit). I have workered and paid taxes since arriving here my husband has worked since the age of 14. So how about the goverment stand up for the rights of my brittish son and let him have a child trust fund that we can pay into for his future and stop punishing him for the fact that I am not from this country.

And also how about the fact that my current leave to reamain expires in 2 months and I need to re-apply. If I am not allowed to stay it would leave my son without a mother and my husband alone to raise his son. My husband would then not be able to carry on with his job as it invloves alot so would have to resign and would that be fully dependent on the state. Me meanwhile could not see the point of living anymore without my son or husband.

Your son should be allowed a trust fund, he is a british citizen, you too should be allowed to stay in this country on the back of having a british citizen son who should not be seperated from his mother.

Good luck with your application. No where do i say all imigrants should be deported, i am not a racist or a bigot, but immigration is out of control in this country. That is what we are debating here.

ninky_2

moppet_217 wrote: »

the UK married partner visa application does not even ask if you have children together where as the australian does.

every brit now has to ask permission from the home office to marry a non eu resident at a cost of three hundred odd quid. waiting times for a response to this request can be around 18 months.

dervish

ninky wrote: »

and what, exactly, are "our" ways. some brits like the queen. some would like to get rid of the monarchy. some brits are religious. some are christian. some are muslim. some are atheist. some brits are law abiding. others are criminals including murderers, rapists, child abusers. some brits are moderate in their views. some brits are inspired by extreme ideologies and like terrorizing and killing their fellow humans (david copeland the london nail bomber for example).

so there are no "our ways" for them to adopt. brits, like immigrants, are a diverse bunch.

what unites British people? :

The English language for one (or it should) - there is no excuse for 2nd or 3rd generation Pakistani families not using English.

dervish

StevieJ wrote: »

In my experience the people who tend to raise this issue don't take long to move onto - introducing the BNP

Those that hide away from this issue (civil and social unrest between ethnic groups) or claim it doesn't exist , tend to live in a dream world.

StevieJ

dervish wrote: »

what unites British people? :

The English language for one (or it should) - there is no excuse for 2nd or 3rd generation Pakistani families not using English.

Het Dervish you have room to talk :rotfl:

jojo1964

ninky wrote: »

net migration from 1991 - 2006 accounted for 2.3 million growth in uk population.

with births in the uk typically around 700, 000 a year breeding accounted for around 10 million growth in population in the same 15 year period.

anyone who has children is somewhat hypocritical to complain about growing population size. if you ain't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Are you able to show any figures to show the birth rate from immigration during these periods?

jojo1964

moppet_217 wrote: »

I am from australia. We can not open a child trust fund without a voucher from the goverment, which you can only get by claiming child benefit. If my husband claimed child benefit it would be viewed that he was claiming on my behalf, as I am home more with our son I am apparently his main parent which is who has to claim it.

Sorry if I am ranting buy I get really upset with people goign on about immigration at the moment and not stopping and thinking about situations like my family.

I think you will find that questions on immigration are not targetted at individuals, but on the numbers allowed to settle, whereas we virtually bar the brave Gurkhas by putting restrictions on them sttling here by stating that they have to have served 20 years in the Army, and/or have won a major medal such as the George cross, and/or have a life threatening illness, yet allow many who any rational person would class as undesirable to settle here, now is that justice?

tomterm8

moppet_217 wrote: »

I am from australia. We can not open a child trust fund without a voucher from the goverment, which you can only get by claiming child benefit. If my husband claimed child benefit it would be viewed that he was claiming on my behalf, as I am home more with our son I am apparently his main parent which is who has to claim it.

Sorry if I am ranting buy I get really upset with people goign on about immigration at the moment and not stopping and thinking about situations like my family.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. When I was volunteering for the citizens advice bureau, we were taught that the key test is the right to reside. Your OH is an EU national (as a british citizen). and has a right to reside in the UK. This right also gives you a parasitic right to reside in the UK, as a spouse. If you are habitually resident in the UK (I am sure you are), then I very much believe you are entitled to child benefit. I would highly recommend contacting the Citizens Advice Bureau. The law changes very rapidly in this area, so I could be wrong.