Why was IMMMIGRATION ignored in the budget>?

Pee

Maybe someone has said this, but how could it have been adressed in the budget: all non UK nationals to be taxed at 200% perhaps? Entry tax, for all people entering the UK, including those who have been on holiday, £200 perhaps?

neas

Its not a problem that stupid low iq people hold incorrect views and blame foreigners for ills of a country (see germany 1937-45 anyone?)

Its a problem when a good 30-40% of the country fall into the above category..

Its a problem for me because:

1. I have a fairly high iq and would rather blame leechers* of society than those who work. Of course even I am humble enough to know that I will prob be wrong.. so i don't start proclaiming discriminating threads on a public forum.
2. The love of my wife has to put up with this kind of nonsense all too more recently as while many enjoyed cheap leccys and building work from
immigrants people they are all too quick to blame them for miseries.





*See leechers as those who can work, but dont, those who could work but cant be btohered, those who as a society we are giving them a meal ticket.. anyone who can't work... i.e disabilitiu, true disability then forgive me.

** Good example of the above is the fat family who said they couldnt work.. yet the father was smaller than some of the guys at my local office job..... just mick takers who enjoy loafing rather than contributing

botchjob

Worth posting again, I feel. A map of Dervish's mind. Topov's looks very similar, although quite a bit smaller.

Ivan_Konstantinov

dervish wrote: »

I was shicked and dismayed to see that IMMIGRATION was completely ignored in the budget.

Surely one way to redress the current fiscal inequalities would be to ensure that immigrants cannot just waltz over here and acrue a wage and take it back out of the country again.

I am saddened that the goverment have again bottled this issue.

Because lazy, good for nothing, benefit scoungers and idiots like you don't want to do the jobs that us "foreigners" will do.

robin_banks

Topov wrote: »

your not even living in this country generali and so you shouldnt be allowed to comment on anything here. your not bothered about immigration because your one yourself. you dont care what happens in the Uk anymore, in fact the worst it gets here the better because you can tell yourself that you were right to leave if it gets crappier. you should all leave dervish alone and look at your own failings and he does is stand up for britian and the rights of british people.

www stands for World Wide Web.

pelirocco

dervish wrote: »

This is thre big problem - THEY SHOULDN'T BE!!!

No-one from any country, no matter whatcolour their skin is or their unusual religion, should be able to just wander into our country and take our resources / get a job.

Australia and America use systems that we shoudl employ to limit immigration. It should hardly ever be used.

Its another reason we need to get out of the EU as it stops us protecting our own sovereign territory from outsiders. :mad:

How strange Dervish can suddenly spell .

*MF*

I offer these extracts as part of the "debate" ... to add to my earlier post about demographics.

Social unrest arising from the economic conditions worldwide looks certain to be a major factor in the years to come.

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In 1990, Japan — facing a growing industrial labor shortage — started issuing thousands of special work visas to descendants of these emigrants. An estimated 366,000 Brazilians and Peruvians now live in Japan.

The guest workers quickly became the largest group of foreign blue-collar workers in an otherwise immigration-averse country, filling the so-called three-K jobs (kitsui, kitanai, kiken — hard, dirty and dangerous).

But the nation’s manufacturing sector has slumped as demand for Japanese goods evaporated, pushing unemployment to a three-year high of 4.4 percent. Japan’s exports plunged 45.6 percent in March from a year earlier, and industrial production is at its lowest level in 25 years.

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Rita Yamaoka, a mother of three who immigrated from Brazil, recently lost her factory job here. Now, Japan has made her an offer she might not be able to refuse.

Sergio Yamaoka, left, and his wife, Rita, came to Hamamatsu from Brazil with their three children three years ago, at the height of the export boom. But in recent months, the Yamaokas both lost their auto factory jobs.

The government will pay thousands of dollars to fly Mrs. Yamaoka; her husband, who is a Brazilian citizen of Japanese descent; and their family back to Brazil. But in exchange, Mrs. Yamaoka and her husband must agree never to seek to work in Japan again.

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It could also hurt Japan in the long run. The aging country faces an impending labor shortage. The population has been falling since 2005, and its working-age population could fall by a third by 2050. Though manufacturers have been laying off workers, sectors like farming and care for the elderly still face shortages.

But Mr. Kawasaki said the economic slump was a good opportunity to overhaul Japan’s immigration policy as a whole.

“We should stop letting unskilled laborers into Japan. We should make sure that even the three-K jobs are paid well, and that they are filled by Japanese,” he said. “I do not think that Japan should ever become a multiethnic society.”

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Those extracts from here:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/business/global/23immigrant.html?ref=business

ultra10

More often than not the defenders of Mass immigration are the least likely to be affected by it. The main Stream Party's have all but ignored certain Elements of the White Working Class indeed look on them with a near contempt & have in-effect Rammed Multiculturalism down there throats with the help of organisations Like the BBC, which is Mandated to "Promote Multiculturalism" ...

In the Coming Euro Elections (Yes We do Still have a Democracy)
I will Probably Vote BNP (& if someone had told me that when at Uni I would not have believed them), to shake up the tired old Con-Lab Ping pong as much as anything & put a halt to the Euro Super State some seem to want to impose on us .... By doing so I will ofcourse be called the Same old Banal polemic .... So here goes, I will admit to being a "Xenophobic..Raxxxt, Bigxxxd, Prxxk, Cxxt, Twxt , Knxb, Jxrk, etc etc etc" as if I really care what a keyboard Ninja has to say :rolleyes: ....

ninky_2

bluey890 wrote: »

Do migrants add to economic growth?

Yes but they also add to population.
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not if you look at things globally. this is like saying people who move from manchester to london are adding to population. or from cities to towns. immigration is just effecting distribution not the number of humans on the planet.

the creation of artifically human habitations such as cities like las vegas (effectively a desert without the manmade irrigation systems that allow it to continue) have more impact on population growth.

ultimately country borders are a human invention, as are passport controls and nationality. we are all citizens of the world. the aim should be for humans to be allowed to settle in whichever part of the globe best suits.

lostinrates

ninky wrote: »

ultimately country borders are a human invention,.

So are shoes, chocolate and indeed, democracy. I fond of all three.

Incidently, re border controls human invention: nature has scores of examples of terratorial defence.