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How to spot a Dodgy ATM
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never-in-doubt wrote: »I heard, from a HR training video (I work in personal protection) that there is also the security feature for ATM's that means if you put your PIN in the wrong way around (say yours is 1234, you type in 4321) that is an alert that means you're in trouble and the machine stalls whilst the police are alerted.
Is this actually factual? I always want to try it but scared i'll get nicked for wasting police time, just wonder why it isn't readily available if indeed it is true and not an urban myth that my employers have taken a step too far....
It would be used if you were being held up or threatened at the ATM etc....
This is NOT TRUE. It is an URBAN MYTH.
THE POLICE WILL NOT BE CALLED, and you will NOT GET ANY CASH. If you enter your PIN in reverse the cash machine will register this as an incorrect entry, and ask you to re-enter your PIN.
Click here
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BruceyBonus wrote: »Not true ... http://www.snopes.com/business/bank/pinalert.asp
Thanks - excellent reading.
My work is a US company so thus explains why they showed it us, i've copied the link to send to my HR dept as well - cheers for that. :beer:2010 - year of the troll
Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
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Thanks - excellent reading.
cheers for that. :beer:2010 - year of the troll
Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
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did not think these were still being used. Sre people still falling for this one
are you allowed to have this as a signature?
http://www.freestuffempire.com/register.php?ref=1378
I didn't think you were, may be an idea to take it off...... :spam:2010 - year of the troll
Niddy - Over & Out :wave:
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This is NOT TRUE. It is an URBAN MYTH.
THE POLICE WILL NOT BE CALLED, and you will NOT GET ANY CASH. If you enter your PIN in reverse the cash machine will register this as an incorrect entry, and ask you to re-enter your PIN.
Click here
Yes,
totally untrue, it's a bit like the 112 mobile phone number that is circulating-
999 & 112 both work in the UK, and both connect to the Emergency Operator, both *may* send location information, but if the service you then connect to can use it depends on their IT systems.
It make NO difference which number you use, both just as quick, both work on all UK networks & both will send your CLID even if witheld.
Sometimes the handoff will vary, but that is if the Network operator has sent location information, so you dont always get the presentation "This is (Exchange Name) connecting 07xxx xxxxxx"
As for ATM & PIN entry devices, I have loads of photos of various ones, non of which I can publish for security.These are my thoughts and no one else's, so like any public forum advice - check it out before entering into contracts or spending your hard earned cash!
I don't know everything, however I do try to point people in the right direction but at the end of the day you can only ever help yourself!0 -
So in terms of how to spot a dodgy ATM, I've seen a useful post from Shelfstacker, as well as OP (with the link to the (American?) pictures) but still limited as to what to actually look out for.
Where the screen on the ATM shows an image of what the machine should look like that's great, but I've never actually seen one of these machines.
Are there any other pics of what a dodgy ATM looks like because I'm at a loss over what to look for.
I mean, how do you know, quickly and easily whether a machine has been tampered with before you stick your card in?
Presumably a non-tampered with ATM will have no attachments on it (no matter how well disguised) and the whole of the facia of the machine should be a single casting of metal with no protrusions..??
I would really help if OP could upload these images he says he has got so we can actually see..?If you will the end, you must will the means.0 -
Sorry, I could have been a bit clearer;
Simple checks are;
Look directly above the PIN pad. Usually (in several types of ATM) there's a flUsh perspex panel covering a light, probably with 3 retaining screws. Has anything been attached to the perspex?
Pictures I have show adhesive marks where PIN capturing cameras have been attached to Haliax and Abbey ATM's. Both Abbey and Halifax held their hands up when asked. The police took the devices away.
What else to look for - check the slot where you enter you card. Make sure it's secure and there's nothing sticking out of it.
Check the PIN Pad too, to see if it is secure.
Golden rule if you have the slightest hunch that something isn't quite right - use another ATM.
Click here - For Card Industry advice on using an ATM. (Unfortunately they don't tell US the public how to spot a Dodgy ATM - hence the posting)0 -
What would actually make a lot of sense for the banks to do is to implement the cashpoints in the same way as some chip and pin devices.
What I mean by that is not that they can be opened and have pins captured ...
What I mean is that instead of taking your card into a mysterious hole where you can't see what happens is to just put it into a slot just far enough to read the chip. If the entire mag stripe can't be run through a reader - then getting the pin is no good to the fraudster (other than mugging you - which is a far more dangerous crime for both involved). But that's an easy message for customers to understand - "Your card should go no more than 3cms into the slot! - if it goes further, immediately call police".
Problem is, of course, those people visiting from countries where we don't have chip and pin yet.
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Try Google Images - ATM Fraud (Lots of Examples of Dodgy ATMs).
Crooks really try hard to get hold of your PIN:
Excellent photo's of False Keyboards (Click here)
You don't have to 'swipe' a card to be able to clone it. What you can do though is to Capture the Card details and PINs from PIN Entry Devices in Shops and produce cloned cards that work with PIN's in ATM's.
Click here (From Retail Week)0 -
thanks JamesIf you will the end, you must will the means.0
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