Help End Oxfordshire PCT's Discriminative Policies

elainew

You have to remember its not just women who are infertile but men too

MrsTinks

nottslass wrote: »

Like wise is it OK for the NHS to spend over £6 Billion per year on obesity, which is entirely preventable ? Why should my taxes pay to treat somebody who has made the life style choice to be fat and lazy ?

In fact, one way to keep the waiting lists down would be for the NHS not to treat anybody who's condition was a) preventable b) not life threating or c)in some way self inflicted - mind you it would mean almost empty hospitals and lots of redundant Doctors !!!!

You're assuming that all overweight people are "fat and lazy" then? Something I can assure you is not the case...
Should help be given to them? Yes if their condition is a health risk - they are here, they are living and breathing, therefor they should come first. IF the day comes when we can afford to treat everything (I would settle for all trusts being able to fund the most effective drugs for cancers and the like btw) then and in my view ONLY then should funds be made available to people who want IVF.

There are many underfunded areas in the NHS - cancer treatments, mental help availability, nurses, A&E departments being under staffed, beds closed because there aren't enough care staff to name but a few...
So spending thousands and thousands on something that will benefit very few and isn't lifesaving (and if it gets to a point of being lifequality affecting then I would have thought the better treatment would be seeing a psycologist...) in my view is misuse of funds...

MrsTinks

Mrs_Ryan wrote: »

I would dearly like some treatment to alleviate my symptoms! But wait - hang on - its just infertility and a few period problems isnt it... So should i just put up and shut up???

And if you think that the worst thing the NHS is throwing money away on is IVF - you are very,very wrong indeed - i know different!

I think that absolutely you should have treatment - it's a medical condition and PCOS is not "just a few period problems" or infertility. It's a medical condition and can have several symptoms as I am certain you know far better than me
I will be honest and say I don't know what treatments ARE available for PCOS but any treatment to alleviate the pain and discomfort I would have thought should be given.

LondonDiva

Nicki wrote: »

Yes - both under and overweight. And those with diagnosed eating disorders should get help to deal with those before/instead of being offered IVF, both because dealing with the disorder successfully may well mean that conception occurs naturally, and because an uncontrolled eating disorder in pregnancy puts mum and baby at potential risk, so it is bonkers to offer help to conceive if it isn't under control.

I am aware btw that many people (unnamed ) have eating disorders but work hard at controlling these when pregnant for the good of their baby. :T

Help is routinely offered to those over/underweight before a course of IVF is offered. the problems come when those wiching IVF see it as a personal attack to be asked (while supported) to lose 3 or 4 stone before commencing treatment. They are usually not taken up and instead energy is spent demanding that treatment is offered.

I think that the success rate for IVF is what? 1 in 17? If so, those requesting it should do their part to help the NHS / tax payer maximise the chance of success.

elainew

where do you get these statistics from??
My clinic was 1 in 4